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Tim Tyler's avatar

Reinforcement learning offers another perspective on this issue. It pictures values as based on rewards - which are usually based on chemical concentrations in the nervous system. Food, warmth and orgasms are rewarding, while pain, irritation and suffering are disvalued. It is possible to hack into the reward system using electrodes and drugs. However, it is mostly out of reach to other cultural changes - unless they provide more or less food, warmth, orgasms, etc. So, for example the obesity epidemic is the result of more food, and barrier contraceptives are likely to result in more frequent orgasms. Many humans do profess to having many other "higher" values - but that's more like the PR department talking.

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Finding ways to combine RAT with core insights from sociology and anthropology is a worthy aim.

And among the contenders for a synthesis, you are on the same track as those who combine insights from the theory of games with asymmetric information (and consequent need for reputation-building, adopting pseudo-self-binding strategies, evolutionary arms races to detect cheaters & evolve more subtle ways to cheat etc.) with Goffman-style sociology (Interaction rituals, The presentation of self in everyday life, Strategic interaction and symbolic interactionism more generally) and acculturation theories (Konner's 700+ tome The Evolution of Childhood and others). The sentence “each person’s main underlying preference is really just to conform to their cultures norms, and rank high on their culture’s status markers.” is quite apt as a nutshell statement in this regard.

“Cultural drift” is also a useful concept to use as an umbrella turm for the various mechanisms that underlie cultural change.

BUT you move very fast (too fast) from such a “positive” synthetic theory to normative assessments of “maladaptive” cultures. Your single proxy indicator for maladaptiveness appears to be low fertility. That’s your Archimedian fulcrum on which you plant your moral lever, in your attempt to move the world. I must protest: Not so fast! For several reasons:

(1) Low fertility need not be maladaptive. Fewer children means that more can be invested in each. More investments = higher long-run survival probability. It’s a human version of the old evolutionary distinction between K-strategists and r-strategists.

(2) …more generally, be careful to assume you, or anyone else, can be smarter than evolution. Stronger: Never argue with evolution.

(3) Even if below 2.1. fertility should be considered maladaptive on the individual level, it can be adaptive for humanity as a whole. Thus it can be a case where what is individually not rational is collectively rational. Fewer humans = less risk of an ecological disaster. Plus fewer, but higher human capital, human beings = higher probability of new innovations & higher societal dynamism.

(4) It is in any case too early to tell if today's global low fertility trend is maladaptive or not. It is also too early to tell if the long-term trend will never break. There were similar concerns about declining fertility in Europe in the 1930, then came WW2 and fertility shot up again. (Actually, it is obvious that the trend will break at some point. Humans are not going to keep getting below 2.1. children per woman until we go extinct.)

(5) Even if it should turn out that below reproduction fertility is forever, it is unlikely to be driven by any particular “culture” alone. Since declining fertility is a global phenomenon, across all world cultures. Including Buddhist, Hindu, Shinto, Muslim and animistic cultures. It has nothing particularly to do with the brands of liberal & conservative Americanism that dominates ideologically in the US.

In short: We must collect data on fertility developments for at least a few hundred more years before we can move on to moral statements. As with the French Revolution, the impact of low fertility on the future of humanity is too early to tell.

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