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Nutrition Capsule's avatar

I liked your dreamtime essay, but also felt very frightened by it. I also mentioned the parallels during the talk you gave. :)

It seems obvious that a return to poverty, or some other enforcing situation, is likely going to be very hard for many or most. Of course you're likely referring to lenghtened periods of stagnation and decline here as well.

In an other old post, I asked whether peak oil (including EROIs decreasing and increasingly advanced or costly technology required to reach or use reserves) might set a cap to growth. You replied that we're nowhere near absolute limits to growth.

I agree, but if humanity goes through a long decline accompanied by not having cheap, abundant, easy-to-use fossil fuels to boost the next growth spurt, might this not place an effective ceiling on growth, at worst? Given that selection pressures might not give enough time/focus/riches to develop alternative high-end technologies to achieve the same ends?

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Raymond Arnold's avatar

I'm not sure I understand what it is you believe now, which you didn't believe when you wrote the dreamtime.

Is this "the dreamtime will end even faster than you thought?" or "slower" or "something weirder happens?"

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