Imagine that one person, or a small group, wants to do something, like watch pornography, do uncertified medical procedures, have gay sex, worship Satan, shoot guns, drink raw milk, etc. Imagine further that many other people outside that small group don’t want them to do this. They instead want the government to make a law prohibiting similar groups from doing similar things.
It's not the same thing. A quick google search would have shown you a "consistent theory is one that does not contain a contradiction". To be logically inconsistent means you can prove X and not X. Not being able to prove all true statements is definitely NOT the definition of inconsistency.
Goedel's Theorem says, paraphrasing, that for any logical system at some point there will be inconsistencies
That is definitely NOT what the theorem says. The theorem says "The first incompleteness theorem states that no consistent system of axioms whose theorems can be listed by an effective procedure (i.e., an algorithm) is capable of proving all truths about the arithmetic of the natural numbers. For any such formal system, there will always be statements about the natural numbers that are true, but that are unprovable within the system. The second incompleteness theorem, an extension of the first, shows that the system cannot demonstrate its own consistency" (emphasis added). Goerdel's theorem does NOT say all logical systems are ultimately inconsistent.
The statistics are easy to find, if you care to educate yourself. The poor in the US live like kings compared to most of the world, including some European nations, such as Greece.
But you know what my favorite part of all this is? That I lived in your head for two years. For two years, you dwelled on how to best respond to me and the above is the best you could come up with. Sad. And pathetic.
" The typical "poor" today have a modest house, almost certainly with central air, at least one car, at least one flat screen HD TV, with hundreds of channels, a gaming station, possibly two, medical care that is definitely better than the third world, a cell phone per adult, plenty to eat, etc."
You're so full of shit, ignorant, and stupid ... a typical right winger. The poor in the U.S. are worse off than in many third world countries.
And Robin Hanson's comment was typically disingenuous. Liberal views of both guns and porn are not directed at restricting people's behavior for their own good.
Goedel's Theorem says, paraphrasing, that for any logical system at some point there will be inconsistencies, and that includes, especially, the law.
Practically what this means is that if you shift a legal system into Conservative mode, the so-called originalists, you can get it to do anything, because the law, being incomplete, only makes sense when you consider utmost the spirit of the law.
There will always be those viruses and bacteria that seek to kill the host, and that is what Libertarians are. Oh, yes, some are naive and new enough to Libertarianism not to have thought and gamed it out enough to realize it devolved to tyranny of the strongest and is only useful for the revolutionaries that seek to subvert or destroy an existing order, such as the US since WII when the Nazis began moving here.
It's not the same thing. A quick google search would have shown you a "consistent theory is one that does not contain a contradiction". To be logically inconsistent means you can prove X and not X. Not being able to prove all true statements is definitely NOT the definition of inconsistency.
You seem to be a dishonest name-caller
Same thing. Just because you can cut and past from Wikipedia does not mean you understand what you are cutting and pasting.
Goedel's Theorem says, paraphrasing, that for any logical system at some point there will be inconsistencies
That is definitely NOT what the theorem says. The theorem says "The first incompleteness theorem states that no consistent system of axioms whose theorems can be listed by an effective procedure (i.e., an algorithm) is capable of proving all truths about the arithmetic of the natural numbers. For any such formal system, there will always be statements about the natural numbers that are true, but that are unprovable within the system. The second incompleteness theorem, an extension of the first, shows that the system cannot demonstrate its own consistency" (emphasis added). Goerdel's theorem does NOT say all logical systems are ultimately inconsistent.
You seem to be an imbecile. Sorry I wasted my time responding.
The statistics are easy to find, if you care to educate yourself. The poor in the US live like kings compared to most of the world, including some European nations, such as Greece.
But you know what my favorite part of all this is? That I lived in your head for two years. For two years, you dwelled on how to best respond to me and the above is the best you could come up with. Sad. And pathetic.
It doesn't matter, that is what it is sold as, otherwise no one would buy into it.
Further from the other point of view, if it was what you claimed libertarians would have nothing to complain about.
Wow, two year old response from a bitter, delusional asshole who hasn't learned anything since. The internet is an amazing place!
" The typical "poor" today have a modest house, almost certainly with central air, at least one car, at least one flat screen HD TV, with hundreds of channels, a gaming station, possibly two, medical care that is definitely better than the third world, a cell phone per adult, plenty to eat, etc."
You're so full of shit, ignorant, and stupid ... a typical right winger. The poor in the U.S. are worse off than in many third world countries.
You appear to be an imbecile and an asshole.
Tige Gibson, OTOH, is right.
And Robin Hanson's comment was typically disingenuous. Liberal views of both guns and porn are not directed at restricting people's behavior for their own good.
"Goedel's Theorem says, paraphrasing, that for any logical system at some point there will be inconsistencies"
No, that only applies to complete axiomatic formal systems, and the law is neither complete nor a formal axiomatic system.
The law is inconsistent because it's a human creation, not because of the Incompleteness Theorem.
"I don't know why people always assume"
I know why right wingers who can't handle the arguments people actually make instead attack hyperbolic strawmen.
"That seems like a better use of $28 billion than anything the US government has come up with."
Only to an intellectually dishonest ignoramus.
"I didn't ignore what you wrote next."
You obviously did, you stupid lying asshole.
You think that is fair?
Goedel's Theorem says, paraphrasing, that for any logical system at some point there will be inconsistencies, and that includes, especially, the law.
Practically what this means is that if you shift a legal system into Conservative mode, the so-called originalists, you can get it to do anything, because the law, being incomplete, only makes sense when you consider utmost the spirit of the law.
There will always be those viruses and bacteria that seek to kill the host, and that is what Libertarians are. Oh, yes, some are naive and new enough to Libertarianism not to have thought and gamed it out enough to realize it devolved to tyranny of the strongest and is only useful for the revolutionaries that seek to subvert or destroy an existing order, such as the US since WII when the Nazis began moving here.
And if there are no solutions you would find reasonable?
MC, you have serious psychological issues.