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Bingo.

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You've obviously never worked for a corporation before.

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The bosses CAN see it. They love it. How do you think those bosses became the boss themselves?

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Kissing ass is THE only way to get promoted. Anyone who says different is lying.

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I wouldn't say so much that we like kissing ass so much that our bosses insist on it by weeding out those who don't.

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When your career and job itself depends on the whim of your direct boss, you and your boss both know that your job depends on them not wanting to fire you. You know it, and so does your boss.

Why would ass-kissing NOT be called for in such a situation? Respect for the boss is the foundation of every single job out there, especially in a very competitive labor market that makes it very easy for a boss to shitcan and replace you at the snap of a finger if you displease them.

Ass kissers are the only ones who survive. Anyone who doesn't kiss ass well enough simply doesn't last long.

Bosses are also usually the ones who get to decide whether your work is good or not, and they are the filter through which his own superiors see you whether you like it or not, so if your boss says you're an incompetent sack of crap just because he doesn't like you, guess what? Nobody's going to call him on it. His own boss will trust him, his colleagues will keep their noses out of his business, and if he's willing to badmouth you for personal reasons chances are his subordinates (and your coworkers) are going to be too scared of retaliation to take your side.

Keeping your boss happy determines whether you GET to do a good job.

As for bad bosses, they do exist and anyone who cares about their job must learn how to kiss that ass if they want to avoid being fired. And the only person in a position to get rid of a bad boss, is HIS boss. The boss's reports are obviously in no position to do it, and bucking the chain of command is a fast way to get fired if your boss thinks you're going behind his back.

The only way to resolve that is if the BIGGER boss takes the initiative to inspect the chain of command under him. Only the sheriff can make sure his deputies aren't harassing citizens.

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500 people are to little for me to agree, doing a good job surely would please your boss than not doing a good job. Also what were the percentages of different job sectors sampled ? Because I am pretty sure your boss wouldn't want you to screw up in a vital role that can make it big or not if something goes wrong. And if you make big for a high up company I am pretty sure respect and recognition will be there. I am not disagreeing that acting like a kiss ass would not make you successful, for me great communication and top range work would be a better approach.

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My personal opinion this is true, ppl who can please their boss, even though they are not really good, mess, lazy but they are smart ass, they always ahead from a good worker, too bad so many boss can't see it :-)

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Successful association with high-status people is a source of status. Kissing ass doesn't maximize status, but can increase it.

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I would definitely not classify "[making] others aware of your accomplishments in your job; [taking] responsibility for positive events even when you are not solely responsible; [arriving] at work early in order to look good in front of others" as "just doing a good job". People who engage in the described behavior can be extremely disruptive to worker's environment without increasing output in the least.

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People who endeavor to please their bosses might just be more effective workers on net, actually accomplishing more for less effort expended. Organizations and work crews with more people genuinely trying to please their bosses would probably be able to delegate better, and trust would go further.

Delegating and trusting more gives more chances for comparative advantage to kick in. In particular, the boss can concentrate better on the big picture because employees are more consistently taking care of the little details (that they know the boss is likely to care about) whereas the employee does not have to waste as much time considering big picture organizational matters as they would if they were explicitly trying to do a "good" job.

Another aspect to consider is that a boss's approval may be considerably easier to measure in terms of feedback than measuring whether the job one has done is "good", so employees who use boss approval as their measuring stick tend to get more/better quality positive feedback, hence higher satisfaction (for less effort).

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I think that's indeed far fetched. Kissing ass isn't a cheap way to increase status: it's a sacrifice of status, expensive in status terms because high-status folks don't need to kiss ass. I mean, that's practically what it means to be high status!

When people are promoted for kissing ass, they are being given protection in return for subordination.

That's not to say deep human needs for deference and even abasement don't exist, but when they take the unsublimated, raw form of "kissing ass," they are enjoyed only by the character-disordered, even while swallowed by careerists for whom it's the only way.

[Added.] Can we, Robin, expect ems to be ass kissers?

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It might be that people enjoy the fruits of kissing ass enough to make up for it.

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Perhaps the reason ass kissers have higher job satisfaction is that they are able to rise to whatever position their skills allow them to, whereas the people who are competent but don't kiss ass feel dissatisfaction when they are passed over for promotion in favour of someone less competent but more politically inclined.

I don't think people like kissing ass but do like the benefits bestowed upon them for doing so, and those benefits outweigh the slimy feeling you would get when you deceive someone for your boss, which would feel less slimy and more automatic over time as it becomes a habit, in contrast to the angst arising from the consequences of being on the wrong side of your boss.

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Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well.

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It might be my bias, but it might simply happen, that people who are likely to kiss ass, are alse the ones, who feel obliged to claim they're happy or satisfied with their life/jobs. Measuring happiness is murky waters. Those questionnaires doesn't tell more than what is one's favourite ice-cream flavour.

My favourite example are young big-city catholics (in Warsaw - I don't know how it looks around the world). Their very religious and very happy about their lives. Because they are supposed to. You're a child of God, so you should be happy. Otherwise you're not believing in God enough.How are you to measure how well are their lives in comparison with others?

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