Novels See Only Politics Changed By Facts
To study perceptions of causes of cultural change, I started with this posted list of the top 240 novels ever. I then asked (paid versions of) three LLMs to, for each novel, see if a main character is shown to have a stance of support or opposition to some social movement, and if so to pick the most central character like this. Re this set of novel characters, I ask what %-political (vs cultural) was the movement, how the character’s stance re it changed in the novel, and to pick from 8 possible causes of change.
Out of the 240 novels, ChatGPT found 9, Gemini found 35, and Claude found 180 where characters took a stance re a social movement. For 5, 15, and 119, respectively, characters changed their stance. So the LLMs had rather different standards re how to decide those.
Their median movement-%-politics estimate was 85%, 80%, and 77%, respectively. For novels where the character changed their stance, those medians were 90%, 100% and 81%. The fraction of novels with a movement where it was <20% political is 0%, 3%, and 0%. So top novels are overwhelmingly interested in political, not cultural movements, especially when characters change their stance re movements.
The fraction of characters whose stance changed who came more to support their movement was 80%, 40%, 56%. And “seeing unexpected events or facts in the world” was said to cause their stance change in 100%, 77%, and 92% of cases where a cause was identified. No other cause had a non-zero-% for more than one LLM. Here are the other possible specific causes that LLMs rarely thought described novels:
Change resolved inconsistency in prior norms etc
Saw opportunity to gain power, status, attention
Saw prior associate or prestigious model change, copied them,
Gained new associates or prestigious models, copied them
It just felt right
Thus top novels are overwhelmingly focused on political, not cultural, change, and on change driven by characters seeing unexpected things in the world, and not driven by feelings, consistency, or copying associates.


Can you have the LLM's rank order their lists and then you give us example from both ends of the lists?
Is easy to see counterexamples off the top of my head. Huck Finn, for instance, changes his stance on slavery/goodness to resolve inconsistency in his prior norms and actions.
And Boromir saw opportunity to gain power status or attention.
Those two examples come to mind before any examples of political opinions changed by facts.
Raskolnikov’s change just feels right.
I’m still not immediately seeing a fist example of a fact driven shift.