Tuesday I complained that the main argument against polygamy (men with multiple wives), that it creates more unmarried and hence unhappy men, also argues for polyandry (women with multiple husbands), female prostitution, stronger punishment of wife affairs, and for forbidding women who never marry. Many complained that I neglected to consider intrinsic gender asymmetries, which would induce more polygamy than polyandry, and more gays than lesbians. Then there is
Slow zebras aren't too much of a concern to other zebras. Large numbers of lonely young men on the other hand, can be a large concern to the rest of us.
If you were smarter, you'd see enforced monogamy as a way of keeping inequity tolerable to men who would otherwise be revolutionaries and make society rather fair through being forced into an evolutionary corner. You also probably wouldn't say "earned."
If you read well he talked about a change achieved via an eventual, possible cultural change. Thus people coming to the conclusion that is more convenient not screwing each other, but much less more the influence of the law (semi uneffective), but actually as a whole society.And why do you assume he didn't know that societies actually punished it harshly. It simply said it was cruel, forced and uneffective and i want to stress it, i don't think those law were in anyway ideally meant to reducing "male inequality" or sex inequality, rather to keep more firm the relationships of power, dominance and property.
I don't think there really are betas and alphas, at least we can not be reduced at this. I think some girls really don't find what's commonly described as alphaness, alpha. So it is relative.
3.Sadly some people thinks these 2 are good reasons. They are abysmal reasons, but if you think about it often discrimination stems from abysmal reasoning.
Determining the ratio of homosexuality in past, with much less acceptance of it is close to impossible i think, so I simple think that the increased acceptance made it more visible. I also don't think it's given by the decreased options of mating, many girls say about gay guys they would have liked "wasted men". So they are often handsome guys much desired.
In fact I was saying that masturbation was better and more sincere than prostitution, that said I wasn't against it or disrespect, especially if women doing it are in necessity.I also adverse forbidding polygamy, but just for the sake of freedom, not because i have the natural selection or survival of the best myth.I think cooperation and solidarity is better for society, because people trusting each other are more united against oppression, a society with few rich people is the result of poor people struggling with each other for "selection" imho, while a few people take the tastier fruits of these fights :), indeed they have interest on perpetuating the war amomg poors - medium class.That said i don't adverse well endowed men or women going for the aesthetically or intellectually more pleasing partner, though maybe perfection has not to be so much mythized (i find it boring sometimes) and average people maybe should delude themselves less in striving for the apparently "better endowed" and invest more in cultivating the potential of excellence in "average" people. Because excellence, or geniusness to me is not completely innate, it depends also on the terrain it grows in, which is the society.
Sorry, I can be hard to understand. When frustrated, my tongue gets stuck in my cheek. I greatly respect prostitution though I haven’t tried one. I get people to lie to me for free. Masturbation on the other hand, so to speak, is a great way to relax. My point was that both polygamy and hypergamy are not only natural, but healthy and widespread. The animal chooses the mate most likely to produce good offspring and provide for the family. It's not fair. I'm bald, potbellied and poor. Angelina Jolie chose Brad Pitt instead of me. It's not fair but see the line about masturbation. Lonely men, like slow zebras, hate natural selection. Here are the results of the western experiment. Zebras don’t have religion or congressmen to skewer natural selection so they don't make many retarded baby zebras, and that's that. We in the west want fairness. We forbid fit parents from mating with multiple partners but we give extra pay to unfit parents who do so. We ostracize women who actually choose a mate based solely on his success but we applaud those who have sex with loosers for true love. Autism rates are increasing at such speeds that republicans are denying it faster than evidence of global warming. No one knows why. It's a mystery. It's not fair.One more point. Female penguins don't like shiny rocks but they do like the male that can gather the best pile of them. Perhaps if women were scarcer due to polygamy and or hypergamy perhaps we men would strive harder for success.
he he, funny.For me I would be jealous of a woman loving my eventual money and not me :D.
As for prostitution my point is that I could not have sex with a woman not sharing my sensations - equal masturbatio > doing it alone, rather than in two.Yes, law enforced equality can be uneffective, if not interiorized by people, the social equality of women is obviously a different thing rather the forced, it's simply the removing of most social and juridic obstacles women used to endure in past.Life struggle has been reduced to an extend, though and things could get better, so sexual inequality might lower as well and sex will become more ludic.
We have a common phrase for "sexual inequality". When more desirable, more successful men attract more and better mates, we call it natural selection. Regulated monogamy, enforced fidelity, financial support to the mass breeding of those who have not earned the right, and any other attempt of unnatural equality leads to another common phrase. The downward spiral. Now please exuse me. I'm gonna go make some money and follow that with some much earned sex. If you do the same, then maybe your wife wont be waiting for me when I begin.
sisterwives ummm isn't polygamy against the law? why does TLC continue to bombard us with weird/freakish people?... The Zombie Queen is watching a polygamy show. She asks the Zombie King if he would have other women. Zombie King Says No..
I suspect that with respect to status the answer is 1.5: the guy needs to have higher status than the other guys who are available to her.
So the guy is competing with other guys, but her status matters to the extent it makes higher status guys available to her.
Slow zebras aren't too much of a concern to other zebras. Large numbers of lonely young men on the other hand, can be a large concern to the rest of us.
Actually, unrestrained hypergamy leads to the downward spiral. Every country that practices what you do is an unstable dirthole.
It's not natural selection completely. It's also dogma. Westerners just worship greed, but they label it practicality to make themselves feel better.
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If you were smarter, you'd see enforced monogamy as a way of keeping inequity tolerable to men who would otherwise be revolutionaries and make society rather fair through being forced into an evolutionary corner. You also probably wouldn't say "earned."
No I honestly don't think rejected men loses value, if not by overly conformistic women.
If you read well he talked about a change achieved via an eventual, possible cultural change. Thus people coming to the conclusion that is more convenient not screwing each other, but much less more the influence of the law (semi uneffective), but actually as a whole society.And why do you assume he didn't know that societies actually punished it harshly. It simply said it was cruel, forced and uneffective and i want to stress it, i don't think those law were in anyway ideally meant to reducing "male inequality" or sex inequality, rather to keep more firm the relationships of power, dominance and property.
I don't think there really are betas and alphas, at least we can not be reduced at this. I think some girls really don't find what's commonly described as alphaness, alpha. So it is relative.
3.Sadly some people thinks these 2 are good reasons. They are abysmal reasons, but if you think about it often discrimination stems from abysmal reasoning.
Determining the ratio of homosexuality in past, with much less acceptance of it is close to impossible i think, so I simple think that the increased acceptance made it more visible. I also don't think it's given by the decreased options of mating, many girls say about gay guys they would have liked "wasted men". So they are often handsome guys much desired.
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In fact I was saying that masturbation was better and more sincere than prostitution, that said I wasn't against it or disrespect, especially if women doing it are in necessity.I also adverse forbidding polygamy, but just for the sake of freedom, not because i have the natural selection or survival of the best myth.I think cooperation and solidarity is better for society, because people trusting each other are more united against oppression, a society with few rich people is the result of poor people struggling with each other for "selection" imho, while a few people take the tastier fruits of these fights :), indeed they have interest on perpetuating the war amomg poors - medium class.That said i don't adverse well endowed men or women going for the aesthetically or intellectually more pleasing partner, though maybe perfection has not to be so much mythized (i find it boring sometimes) and average people maybe should delude themselves less in striving for the apparently "better endowed" and invest more in cultivating the potential of excellence in "average" people. Because excellence, or geniusness to me is not completely innate, it depends also on the terrain it grows in, which is the society.
Sorry, I can be hard to understand. When frustrated, my tongue gets stuck in my cheek. I greatly respect prostitution though I haven’t tried one. I get people to lie to me for free. Masturbation on the other hand, so to speak, is a great way to relax. My point was that both polygamy and hypergamy are not only natural, but healthy and widespread. The animal chooses the mate most likely to produce good offspring and provide for the family. It's not fair. I'm bald, potbellied and poor. Angelina Jolie chose Brad Pitt instead of me. It's not fair but see the line about masturbation. Lonely men, like slow zebras, hate natural selection. Here are the results of the western experiment. Zebras don’t have religion or congressmen to skewer natural selection so they don't make many retarded baby zebras, and that's that. We in the west want fairness. We forbid fit parents from mating with multiple partners but we give extra pay to unfit parents who do so. We ostracize women who actually choose a mate based solely on his success but we applaud those who have sex with loosers for true love. Autism rates are increasing at such speeds that republicans are denying it faster than evidence of global warming. No one knows why. It's a mystery. It's not fair.One more point. Female penguins don't like shiny rocks but they do like the male that can gather the best pile of them. Perhaps if women were scarcer due to polygamy and or hypergamy perhaps we men would strive harder for success.
he he, funny.For me I would be jealous of a woman loving my eventual money and not me :D.
As for prostitution my point is that I could not have sex with a woman not sharing my sensations - equal masturbatio > doing it alone, rather than in two.Yes, law enforced equality can be uneffective, if not interiorized by people, the social equality of women is obviously a different thing rather the forced, it's simply the removing of most social and juridic obstacles women used to endure in past.Life struggle has been reduced to an extend, though and things could get better, so sexual inequality might lower as well and sex will become more ludic.
We have a common phrase for "sexual inequality". When more desirable, more successful men attract more and better mates, we call it natural selection. Regulated monogamy, enforced fidelity, financial support to the mass breeding of those who have not earned the right, and any other attempt of unnatural equality leads to another common phrase. The downward spiral. Now please exuse me. I'm gonna go make some money and follow that with some much earned sex. If you do the same, then maybe your wife wont be waiting for me when I begin.
sisterwives ummm isn't polygamy against the law? why does TLC continue to bombard us with weird/freakish people?... The Zombie Queen is watching a polygamy show. She asks the Zombie King if he would have other women. Zombie King Says No..