Sociologist Lauren Rivera knows what it takes to get behind the velvet rope. She recommends, “Know someone. Or know someone who knows someone. If you’re a guy, bring attractive women—ideally younger women in designer clothes. Don’t go with other dudes. And doormen are well versed in trendiness, so wear Coach, Prada, Gucci—but don’t show up in a nice suit with DSW shoes.” …
Your apathy to the inherent racism is the problem. We, as a nation decided a long time ago that if you are a public accommodation, then you shall must abide by the Civil Rights Act.
Regardless, it's public accommodations. You're not really making an apples and oranges argument here but rather, granny smith vs. Washington apples lol.
I really don't think that lagal regulations are why our society is so screwed up - it's more because so many people blindly conform to arbitrary social norms and because of the dunning-kruger effect (basically, the rule that stupid people don't realise they're stupid).
But I agree that privately owned businesses should have a right to decide who they do or don't want to provide their services to. If they have sexist or racist policies, people should boycott them.
"The media seems amazingly ignorant of their transparent hypocrisy; they assume “race/gender selective country clubs bad, city clubs good.” "
Obviously, because the paparazzi get mondo photo-ops and business outside clubs, putting themselves on a first-name basis with Hollywood royalty; meanwhile nobody cares about the CEO of Pfrizer hitting the links at Brentwood Oaks.Media are prostitutes and shills, never forget that.
"In the calculation of whether to sue is also a question of compensable damages"
If you've never heard of exemplary, or punitive damages, since the purpose of civil law is to deter wrongful conduct as well as compensate the victims. The value of social inclusion goes far beyond what anyone what anyone can put a price on.
There's also the issue of expectation-damages, since a person has an implied contract with the club-owner to facilitate social interaction.
Note to you: don't play lawyer, you aren't licensed OR qualified. (Amazing how those who run to a doctor for a splinter, have no problem trying their hand at epic cases of law despite knowing nothing about it-- they're just showing their own ignorance and prejudice).
Maybe it had something to do with wearing them around their waists, not knees..... or that black + baggsy pants tends to mean gangstas. Discrimination for status is one thing, for safety another.
"you can always trade up from not looking as sharp as the doormen would like"You think a few clothes and a make-over would make Patton Oswalt into a Chippendale? You don't need glasses, you need a Hubble space-telescope.
Why do people not understand the difference between private organizations and public accommodations?
Your apathy to the inherent racism is the problem. We, as a nation decided a long time ago that if you are a public accommodation, then you shall must abide by the Civil Rights Act.
Regardless, it's public accommodations. You're not really making an apples and oranges argument here but rather, granny smith vs. Washington apples lol.
I really don't think that lagal regulations are why our society is so screwed up - it's more because so many people blindly conform to arbitrary social norms and because of the dunning-kruger effect (basically, the rule that stupid people don't realise they're stupid).
But I agree that privately owned businesses should have a right to decide who they do or don't want to provide their services to. If they have sexist or racist policies, people should boycott them.
Yes, because having your skin completely replaced is a reasonable and proportional response to not being let into a club.../sarcasm/
"NYC still has its known Black, Latin, White and evenGay neighborhoods."
Rats always segregate when packed in, and people in NY are packed tighter than anywhere; they should just dam those rivers and let the people out.
"The media seems amazingly ignorant of their transparent hypocrisy; they assume “race/gender selective country clubs bad, city clubs good.” "
Obviously, because the paparazzi get mondo photo-ops and business outside clubs, putting themselves on a first-name basis with Hollywood royalty; meanwhile nobody cares about the CEO of Pfrizer hitting the links at Brentwood Oaks.Media are prostitutes and shills, never forget that.
"In the calculation of whether to sue is also a question of compensable damages"
If you've never heard of exemplary, or punitive damages, since the purpose of civil law is to deter wrongful conduct as well as compensate the victims. The value of social inclusion goes far beyond what anyone what anyone can put a price on.
There's also the issue of expectation-damages, since a person has an implied contract with the club-owner to facilitate social interaction.
Note to you: don't play lawyer, you aren't licensed OR qualified. (Amazing how those who run to a doctor for a splinter, have no problem trying their hand at epic cases of law despite knowing nothing about it-- they're just showing their own ignorance and prejudice).
Actually country clubs were for people who were already married.
That's true, and likewise it's no excuse.
Common law kind of goes back to the times of slavery and Inquisitions. Newsflash, it's 2015 not 1015.
Maybe it had something to do with wearing them around their waists, not knees..... or that black + baggsy pants tends to mean gangstas. Discrimination for status is one thing, for safety another.
Just one question: what's the fastest and most accessible way for you to kill yourself? Do that now.Thanks,and good riddance.
"you can always trade up from not looking as sharp as the doormen would like"You think a few clothes and a make-over would make Patton Oswalt into a Chippendale? You don't need glasses, you need a Hubble space-telescope.
In your case I'd agree with you, it explains your screen-name.
If that's ANYTHING it's about, then discrimination shouldn't be legal.