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Ali Afroz's avatar

Things like broken or harmful are inherently values talk. You can only criticise a value by bringing it into conflict with another value you hold. Otherwise, if your values are broken in a way you do not care about, even if you would have cared about it in the past before you adopted your values, you simply will not care by definition. An argument which the party hearing it does not care about is a waste of time since the whole point of moral argument is changing actions, so if it fails to move people to action there is no point to it.

Maybe you agree with all of that, but in that case, please note that that is what people mean when they see your values define you and cannot be questioned. The argument is that perhaps my values are bad in a sense, but if that type of badness is something I do not value, then of course, I won’t care about this defect.

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Jerdle's avatar

Well, yes, but I am also not evolution's values.

I am a misaligned mesa-optimiser, yes, but I do not want to become aligned.

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