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Catherine Caldwell-Harris's avatar

The distinction between 'seeing like a state' (abstract) vs. local cultural is valuable and somewhat novel to me as an articulated concept (although I am a cross-cultural psychologist). Anthropologists and other social scientists traditionally haven't spoken this abstractly, although they discuss related ideas like high and low context; emic vs. etic perspectives, etc). This idea can explain flaws in the goals of rich countries to improve living situations in low-income regions. I also like the analogy with this idea and the STEM/humanities contrast. And I appreciate the flood / small town example.

Hansen notes that people do not want to give up their decades of local contextual information in favor of the abstract 'view from nowhere' principles. Why that reluctance is rational: Those ideas could be pinned down incorrectly. One needs an intense amount of knowledge to accept that those abstract principles will actually be helpful rather than an attempt for a group foreign to you to enrich itself (or signal their virtuosity and get promoted as in some of Scott's examples).

The above is most relevant to extensions of the flood scenario and less relevant to cultural drift. As far as I can understand Hansen, the negative outcomes expected for contemporary US and global cultures are decreased innovation and low fertility, which will mean high-fertility groups will take over, and those groups have norms which many of us moderns find aversive (such as controlling female agency to increase fertility). But those outcomes are both far off and far from certain.

For these reasons, it is hard for Hansen to galvanize his audience to take action against cultural drift. People feel more motivated by fixing what they view as clear and/or current problems like wealth inequality, political oppression and discrimination.

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Hollis Robbins (@Anecdotal)'s avatar

Great piece. You may be interested in "Seeing like a State University," showing how higher ed is structured by the Dept. of Ed in ways that prevent the integration of STEM and the humanities when the new goal is "job placement" not cultural expansion. I offer the case of a future plumber wanting to get a degree in English & the impossibility of doing so in ways the State approves. https://hollisrobbinsanecdotal.substack.com/p/seeing-like-a-state-university

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