From an ’04 book chapter by Cathy Salmon on porn vs. romance novels: There is such a thing as a pornography consumed exclusively by women .. it is the romance novel. Romance novels account for 40% of mass market paperback sales in the United States …. The realm of the romance novel, which might be called "romantopia," is a utopian erotic female counterfantasy to pornotopia. Just as porn actresses exhibit a suspiciously male-like sexuality, romances are exercises in the imaginative transformation of masculinity to conform with female standards. …
youth = not menopause = childbearing years = gene expression.
Do you also find it creepy that a single woman with a kids also PREFERS her future mates don't kill off here offspring from competing males?
Shaming males for being attracted to young women limits male genetic viability and preferential mate selection.
Shaming single mothers limits the resource she can obtain and co-operative child rearing opportunities limiting the viability of here genetic expression.
It must also be super creepy the women have sexual preferences right?
Just look at the results. If you wife does not wish to engage in sex, both partners healthy, its marriage poison. Especially when the wife says, "i just love historical fiction" and the books are covered by buff men and vulnerable dressed up women. What resonates with men versus women is best measured by the results. Without romance where one desires it with the other and not the reverse as filled by softcore porn, the marriage will die or its continuation will hurt the man.
Some very valid points here when comparing romance novels to porn. However, in the novels there is more imagination involved and most women, including myself, imagine our significant others. The sexual scenes are more realistic. Porn scenes on the other hand warp reality and the woman is right there for you. There is no room for imagination when the image is given to you.
Ok, found that article(5 Things That Internet Porn Reveals About Our Brains). . It seems like the numbers were kind of misrepresented. I didn't get which search engine was used. second-most-popular heterosexual interest on English-language search engines" sounds very specific but doesn't really give you anything. I also wonder how many men are fantisizing about being the alpha and not the husband to off set lesson 4. Different stokes for different folks. (Pun intended) Although it wasnt shocking to see the #1 search was youth. Super creepy.
Yeah, it's called marriage. Once your married you not only limit your sexual/romantic contact with other men/women you do not engage in it. "To be fair men exhibit similar patterns, trying to limit the contact of their women with other men." yeah no one wants their partner with someone else. I'm sorry maybe I misinterpreted that comment.
Porn is just another way for women to have more control over their men, by controlling his access to sexual satisfaction. It can make sense. To be fair men exhibit similar patterns, trying to limit the contact of their women with other men. I guess ideally everyone should be free to do whatever they want, and in the end they'll only stay with the person they love.
Also the argument of anyone can watch porn but it takes alittle more sophistication for novels. http://www.sirenbookstrand.... their slogan is "quality erotic romance for the sophisticated reader". Wow just take a look at how sophisticated these novels are. A justification for porn.
When this subject is presented, All variables are not considered, humans are wired for sex by design. We have to be or our race would not survive. Many readers of romance novels strike against consideration that romance novels could in some situations by toxic to the human mind. Some reader of nude magazines believe the same. Many will never develop a problem with either. On the flip side many will. When the romance novel dispute arises it doesn't take into account the difference between the many types of romance novelHardcore erotic novels (the most extreme in some cases more graficly than porn video) are labeled erotic romance. So you have they old school romance, lots of dialogue and story line not based on sex (not just intercourse). I guess look at it in the rating system of. G, PG, PG-13, R, X, XXX. Which any can be ok but people can't control themselves when it comes to sex. It can be for some not all like opening pandora's box going through the rating system. Starting at G rated romance novels and graduating to the R that are sold on the Walmart bookshelf. To the X that you would be ashamed to be seen buying. If you look at erotic romance Seller http://www.sirenpublishing.... . It might give a better outlook on romance novel vs porn. See the top 50 sellers. Very similar to a young man looking at a women's underwear ad then playboy, then more grafic nude mag, softcore porn video, hardcore video, extreme fetish websites. NOT THE CASE FOR EVERYONE. That is. escalation of content. We are hard wired for sex. Now look at obsession not everyone will become obsessed with these things but so many do. If you think it is foolish or want to make the argument that it isn't like drugs someone can't get to the point of not being able to think of anything else. Do some research on porn addition. Men do this.... Women should be able to......We need to back up and get some balance. Romance novel huge industry. Porn huge industry. Sex sells.
Seems a bit of a cop out, you think imagination can't replace a face? Maybe your husband wants to fuck your ass and you are not open to that?
youth = not menopause = childbearing years = gene expression.
Do you also find it creepy that a single woman with a kids also PREFERS her future mates don't kill off here offspring from competing males?
Shaming males for being attracted to young women limits male genetic viability and preferential mate selection.
Shaming single mothers limits the resource she can obtain and co-operative child rearing opportunities limiting the viability of here genetic expression.
It must also be super creepy the women have sexual preferences right?
Just look at the results. If you wife does not wish to engage in sex, both partners healthy, its marriage poison. Especially when the wife says, "i just love historical fiction" and the books are covered by buff men and vulnerable dressed up women. What resonates with men versus women is best measured by the results. Without romance where one desires it with the other and not the reverse as filled by softcore porn, the marriage will die or its continuation will hurt the man.
Some very valid points here when comparing romance novels to porn. However, in the novels there is more imagination involved and most women, including myself, imagine our significant others. The sexual scenes are more realistic. Porn scenes on the other hand warp reality and the woman is right there for you. There is no room for imagination when the image is given to you.
you don't even know the definition of feminism. Educate yourself.
Robot prostitutes will solve this problem once and for all.
Ok, found that article(5 Things That Internet Porn Reveals About Our Brains). . It seems like the numbers were kind of misrepresented. I didn't get which search engine was used. second-most-popular heterosexual interest on English-language search engines" sounds very specific but doesn't really give you anything. I also wonder how many men are fantisizing about being the alpha and not the husband to off set lesson 4. Different stokes for different folks. (Pun intended) Although it wasnt shocking to see the #1 search was youth. Super creepy.
Youth (teen, etc.)
What's the first?
Well, not "no one." I read recently that cuckold porn is the second-most-popular heterosexual interest on English-language search engines.
Yeah, it's called marriage. Once your married you not only limit your sexual/romantic contact with other men/women you do not engage in it. "To be fair men exhibit similar patterns, trying to limit the contact of their women with other men." yeah no one wants their partner with someone else. I'm sorry maybe I misinterpreted that comment.
According to this:http://www.backlash.com/boo...
Porn is just another way for women to have more control over their men, by controlling his access to sexual satisfaction. It can make sense. To be fair men exhibit similar patterns, trying to limit the contact of their women with other men. I guess ideally everyone should be free to do whatever they want, and in the end they'll only stay with the person they love.
Also the argument of anyone can watch porn but it takes alittle more sophistication for novels. http://www.sirenbookstrand.... their slogan is "quality erotic romance for the sophisticated reader". Wow just take a look at how sophisticated these novels are. A justification for porn.
When this subject is presented, All variables are not considered, humans are wired for sex by design. We have to be or our race would not survive. Many readers of romance novels strike against consideration that romance novels could in some situations by toxic to the human mind. Some reader of nude magazines believe the same. Many will never develop a problem with either. On the flip side many will. When the romance novel dispute arises it doesn't take into account the difference between the many types of romance novelHardcore erotic novels (the most extreme in some cases more graficly than porn video) are labeled erotic romance. So you have they old school romance, lots of dialogue and story line not based on sex (not just intercourse). I guess look at it in the rating system of. G, PG, PG-13, R, X, XXX. Which any can be ok but people can't control themselves when it comes to sex. It can be for some not all like opening pandora's box going through the rating system. Starting at G rated romance novels and graduating to the R that are sold on the Walmart bookshelf. To the X that you would be ashamed to be seen buying. If you look at erotic romance Seller http://www.sirenpublishing.... . It might give a better outlook on romance novel vs porn. See the top 50 sellers. Very similar to a young man looking at a women's underwear ad then playboy, then more grafic nude mag, softcore porn video, hardcore video, extreme fetish websites. NOT THE CASE FOR EVERYONE. That is. escalation of content. We are hard wired for sex. Now look at obsession not everyone will become obsessed with these things but so many do. If you think it is foolish or want to make the argument that it isn't like drugs someone can't get to the point of not being able to think of anything else. Do some research on porn addition. Men do this.... Women should be able to......We need to back up and get some balance. Romance novel huge industry. Porn huge industry. Sex sells.
what do you think is the answer?
porn degrades women while romance novels upgrade men. fair? :) think.
men get turned on by visual images.(hence the porn)women get turned on by cognitive images (hence the sexual fantasy in a book).
simple as that + societal standards=men looked down upon.