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You're confusing the noise for the signal. Actual cultural change happens very slowly, but there are wild gyrations in the meantime (aka noise). A lot of conformity or change that you see is just superficial, to fit in with the prevailing fashion. Fashion, which changes on a dime, is not the same as culture.

There's no point as an intellectual steering fashion, unless you're trying to sell a lot of transient stuff. But even then, you're better off just following the fashion, and following again when it changes again, rather than try to steer it. Even artists don't get to steer fashion until (for many of them) they're dead.

Most of the things you're worried about is just the peak of a generational bubble, and it's about to crash on its own. Whether you're in the middle of a dot-com, subprime mortagage or crypto bubble, it seems like the madness will go on forever. Afterwards, you wonder how people could have ever thought that way.

Even from a rationalist point of view, the better explanation for young people having less children is because they sense that the world's carrying capacity is being stretched. But this is an illusion caused by Boomers occupying all the prime spots in the modern capitalist resource distribution nodes and refusing to surrender them (from their POV, they're individualistic in orientation, so why should they?!).

But time cures all. When there are less Boomers taking those spots, purely via the passage of time, younger generations will sense there's more opportunity / the world has more carrying capacity, and fertility rates will naturally tick up. Equlibrium in action over many generations, not in a single generation.

From the point of view of humanity, the plight of single generations is noise, a blip. Forcing too much selection to occur in a single generation will gum up the works, because people just aren't that flexible. They're stuck to their ways, and will glom onto a superficial "overfitted" solution. Declaring that to be the best for all generations to-come is the surest way to cause multi-generational harm.

Generational change will bring discontinuous change that you can't project just based on selection or incentives. That's what usually trips up forecasters.

I'd speculate that it's even true for AI training. AI training that keeps working on recursively iterating a single model rather than periodically starting from fresh and retraining from scratch will end up glomming on a dead end solution. You're treating your current prevailing view of The Culture like that mono-model, rather than each future generation training a new one.

A new model that only superficially matches the old, **while it is still being graded by the old**. Once the old model is no longer grading the new one, the new one will starting churning out its own weirdness / hallucinations. Past performance is no guarantee of future results (so they say).

A cultural regime that continues on its existing track, while being graded by the same authorities, will probably continue on as you project. But that will not be the case when played out in time.

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I've not read all your work on the fertility crisis, but I'm wondering if you've considered the possibility of the production and rearing of children being exported to the state instead of being firmly within the realm of the individual?

Many of the scenarios I imagine lead me to believe there will be an adoption of artificial wombs and genetic selection which, admittedly, would be a radically different world than we currently live in and would likely fail in it's implementation. I just don't see many ways to escape the Moloch-Style games we are currently experiencing in regards to fertility and see exporting these features of our civilization to a imagined bureaucratic-super-ai that removes the "human" components from our civilizations future & planning.

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