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Alexander Gieg's avatar

I'm not sure whether you mentioned this in one of your posts on the topic, as I haven't read all, so I apologize if I'm restating something covered before, but it's interesting to note a few ancient societies had a straightforward way to allow for high fertility among elites coupled with status/wealth preservation: limiting inheritance to the first child of the main wife. That one child inherited everything, the others inherited nothing, and thus extraordinarily rich and/or powerful men had dozens, sometimes hundreds, and, on a few instances, even thousands of children (e.g., Genghis Khan).

Nowadays that'd be considered deeply immoral by most to all societies, thus not an option, but it fits with the KAQ hypothesis, after all, no matter how many children a King has, only one will be king. It'd therefore be interesting to check whether the low fertility "mid-range" of "elites-but-not-kings" correlates with fair inheritance laws benefiting all children, thus incentivizing those families to have fewer ones.

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Daniel Hess's avatar

Do we need new fertility theories? I feel like the ones we have are much simpler and do a great job explaining things:

(1) Education strongly explains what's going on. Education increases income and decreases fertility. That is extremely well documented I think.

How education increases income needs no explanation I think. How it decreases fertility is straightforward:

(a) People almost totally avoid having children during education, and the more years in education, the more of the fertile years are spent almost totally avoiding children.

(b) Education gives people, and especially women, something else to do besides raising a family.

(c) At a basic level (literacy vs. illiteracy), those who are more educated can better control their fertility.

(2) Having more choices also strongly explains what is going on. As income increases, people simply have more choices of things to do besides having children.

(a) Opportunity costs are much higher when you have many alternative options for your time. The lost alternatives (both economic and not) are much greater when a woman has many more choices of what to do with her time, and a richer society affords her many more choices.

(b) We can easily see that when TV or Internet reaches a place, its fertility goes way down. Very simply, people can watch TV or browse the Internet rather than do **the thing.** ;-) It is well documented that fertility increases during blackouts.

These two very old and widely supported 'theories' -- education and having more choices -- nicely explain why increasing income and wealth are associated with lower fertility. We have great theories that are simply and almost certainly true.

Why do we need complicate theories that defy Occams razor? Is it because there is that slight U-shape? That (ever so slight) recovery at the very highest incomes?

I think that slight recovery at high incomes is easy to explain: At the high end of the income spectrum, folks are all about self actualization, and having children is going to part of that for most people. If you are an A-type trying to meet every definition of success, where you check all the boxes, of course you will want kids. For the strivers conquering Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, skipping kids would be a big oversight. Top politicians, the ultimate strivers in our society, almost always have children.

These are the simplest, Occams-Razor type explanations. Why do we need further theories beyond this when these theories are pretty robustly supported and very convincing?

We aren't very likely to do away with either education or fun alternatives entertainments beyond sex. So what is the solution? How do we get to higher fertility?

The easiest answer is just to value children really highly. You can just decide children are really important, and that should override everything else. That is what worked for Israel. They are extremely educated and full of entertainments. But they just decided, 'we've gotta have a lot of kids or our people are f$cked' and so they do.

Just deciding that children are super important probably seems like too simple of a solution, but it probably really is that simple. The elite strivers (of which politicians are my example) are busier than anyone, and more educated than most. But they have decent fertility just by deciding that is an important part of their complete life. Plus being good strivers, they are great at attaining marriage, which is key to fertility.

The fertility of the religious is due to the same thing. It isn't a mystery. They have a worldview where having children is a key part of a fulfilled life. But anyone can have that worldview. The problem right now is that culture doesn't value parenthood (and its usual precursor) that highly.

Summary: Now that fertility has crashed in high income places, for very mundane causes that we understand well, the solution is not to try to undo those causes, but overcome them by just valuing children more than ever before, the way Israel does.

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