Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Tim Josling's avatar

Of course none of this takes away from the fact that agricultural societies where wealth (eg. cattle, grain) could be stored, allowed a quantum leap in the size and degree of hierarchy.

Expand full comment
Tim Josling's avatar

I have not read the book but I am quite sceptical given my own studies of cultural anthropology. Male reproduction rates were very skewed and often statistically positively associated with violence.

As one example, Australian aboriginal societies were mostly polygamous and the (young) women were farmed out to the "elders" based on political deals. This was enforced by the often fatal spearing of young males in the thigh if they had liaisons with the young women, and the young women also suffered retribution. However in some cases older men would have young men as allies and would "turn a blind eye" to such liaisons in return for other support which they provided. These societies were far more complex than you might expect.

I actually met a man who had been speared in such a situation years ago.

This is one reason why, when the white man arrived, the first to assimilate were the young males, who often had little to lose by abandoning the traditional society.

But I will read the book and see what evidence he offers. Hopefully it will not be another example of the "mythical golden age of hippie hunter-gatherers" genre of wishful thinking.

Reports of the gentle peace-loving bonobos also appear to be much exaggerated.

The !Kung were/are an interesting and somewhat unique situation. Being in possession of lethal but slow acting poison arrows, any lethal violence basically amounted to mutually assured destruction and thus died out.

Expand full comment
17 more comments...

No posts