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Bolton's avatar

This potentially seems related to something I noticed in a post I wrote about futarchies that change their preferences: Research into how to better achieve the goals of the futarchy is something that can potentially be rewarded by the futarchy itself.

In allowing the amendment period to prevent situations where people spend 15 on research to increase the pie from 100 to 105 while transferring 16 to themselves, we simultaneously prevent people from transferring to themselves in cases where research is worth it. In the good situation where someone can spend 1 on research to increase the pie by 5, they now won't do so, since they won't see the gains, even though doing so would have been net good, even if they did bundle 1-3 transfers to themselves. Perhaps we could prevent a maximally destructive transfer in some other way, like by imposing a value on fairness in the futarchy target.

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Berder's avatar

Do you have any evidence that amendments to a bill are more likely to solve the transfer problem as opposed to creating new transfer problems? We often hear about riders on a bill that promote some special interest unrelated to the main bill, and these riders are often attached via amendment.

It's not clear to me what the difference would be between proposing an amendment in futarchy and just proposing a new bill. So your special interest group proposes something that gains +16 for them, -20 for others, and bundles it with something that gives +5 to everybody. If someone notices this, why don't they just, immediately afterwards, propose a bill that reverses the +16 -20 part of the first bill? That proposal would be +4 on net and would pass.

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