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Robin, is there some reason we can't both love some art, and love some artists? I see no reason it can't be both. Much of the art I like I value because seeing or hearing it elicits emotions. If I'm in a groove, there's no need for more convoluted explanation than liking being in a groove. Similarly, if I'm considering the value after the experience, I'll place most of the value on the groove. If I'm hearing a performance where a musician adds more to the work, I'll see additional value the musician.

Isn't there plenty of support for an alternative argument: that we value most those activities which elicit an emotional response? That we are using them to prime, stimulate, and experience emotions?

Another consideration: could admiring trading reduce our trading effectiveness? Wouldn't the thinking associated with admiration make us more likely to trust the trader, and be taken advantage of? Disliking the middlemen can be taken too far, but it's also beneficial if our distaste leads us to strive to eliminate them, or make them as lean as possible.

Vichy, I don't know of any evidence that supports primitive hunter-gatherers being any happier, less stressed, or more free for leisure. Do you know of any?

Plenty of evidence of violence, from Cro-Magnon on, has been found as marks on bones, lodged flint points, etc. I'd be willing to make the claim that just general trends of reduced violence over time are enough to suggest that happiness has increased overall. Likely, stress too. Gathering meals is long, hard work. If you've ever picked wild berries, such as huckleberries, consider how much time that takes and how much you get. Now consider that you're picking them at a time of food abundance. There's good reason we specialized gathering and hunting until they became agriculture.

Phil, interesting point. I think that meshes well with my explanation, but what's your take?

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When my kids were young and played a new game, the pattern was clear: If they won, they liked that game and wanted to play it again.

Reminds me of how teacher evaluations tend to be evaluations of student's own performance. Teacher evaluations are anonymous, but you can see how the instructor's average score rises and falls with the class average. If I could peer into the data, I suspect there would be a nontrivial correlation between individual student grades and their teacher evaluations.

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