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		<title>Sex Ratio &amp; Violence</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robin Hanson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[After some prodding by TGGP, I tried to dig into data studies on the relation between violence and sex ratios. Alas this seems to be one of those areas where results are all across the map: More men make more violence: &#8230; <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2012/01/sex-ratio-violence.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After some <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2012/01/sex-ratio-signaling.html#comment-691320">prodding</a> by TGGP, I tried to dig into data studies on the relation between violence and sex ratios. Alas this seems to be one of those areas where results are all across the map:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">More men make <em>more</em> violence: <a href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1728-4457.2000.00335.x/abstract">here</a>, <a href="http://www.nber.org/public_html/confer/2008/cwgf08/edlund.pdf">here</a>,</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">More men make <em>less</em> violence: <a href="http://ccr.sagepub.com/content/34/3/264  ">here</a>, <a href="http://sf.oxfordjournals.org/content/69/3/693.short ">here</a>, <a href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1745-9125.1991.tb01060.x/abstract">here</a>.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Mixed results: <a href="http://digitool.fcla.edu/R/7DAFRYIARH8P2KYML1TS678FPTSR9CYG1V6EFSSBD62ECQVU75-01755">here</a>, <a href="http://ccr.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/37/4/373">here</a>.</p>
<p>I quit, and tentatively conclude the evidence is unclear.</p>
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		<title>Sex Ratio Signaling</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robin Hanson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nicholas Eberstadt on a &#8220;Global War Against Baby Girls&#8220;: An ominous and entirely new form of gender discrimination, … skewing the sex ratios for the rising generation toward a biologically unnatural excess of males, … sex-selective abortion has assumed a &#8230; <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2012/01/sex-ratio-signaling.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicholas Eberstadt on a &#8220;<a href="http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/the-global-war-against-baby-girls">Global War Against Baby Girls</a>&#8220;:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">An ominous and entirely new form of gender discrimination, … skewing the sex ratios for the rising generation toward a biologically unnatural excess of males, … sex-selective abortion has assumed a scale tantamount to a global war against baby girls. … From a collision of three forces: first, local mores that uphold a truly merciless preference for sons; second, low or sub-replacement fertility trends, … and third, the availability of health services and technologies. … The total population of the regions beset by unnaturally high SRBs [= sex ratio at birth] amounted to 2.7 billion, or about 40 percent of the world’s total population.</p>
<p>Matt Ridley <a href="http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/distorting-human-sex-ratio">agrees</a>, and is &#8220;pessimistic&#8221; about this &#8220;distortion.&#8221; But neither of them object to the lower fertility that is a contributing cause, nor to the morality of the act of abortion. So what exactly is the problem? A simple supply and demand analysis says that selective abortion both <em>expresses</em> a preference for boys and <em>causes</em> a reduction in that preference as wives become scarce. In South Korea this process is mostly complete, with excess boys down from 15% in the 1990s to 7% today (with ~5% as the biologically natural excess).</p>
<p>Eberstadt elaborates:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The consequences of medically abetted mass feticide are far-reaching and manifestly adverse. …[This] establishes a new social reality that inescapably colors the whole realm of human relationships, redefining the role of women as the disfavored sex in nakedly utilitarian terms, and indeed signaling that their very existence is now conditional and contingent.</p>
<p>What &#8220;new social reality&#8221;? A preference for boys was there and clear to all before selective abortion came on the scene.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Moreover, enduring and extreme SRB imbalances set the demographic stage for an incipient “marriage squeeze.” …  Unmarried men appear to suffer greater health risks than their married counterparts. …. A steep rise in the proportion of unmarried and involuntarily childless men begs the question of old-age support for that rising cohort.</p>
<p>But these are all about things getting worse for men, which is exactly how supply and demand solves such a &#8220;problem.&#8221; Finally, Eberstadt invokes some externalities:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The “rising value of women” can have perverse and unexpected consequences, including increased demand for prostitution and an upsurge in the kidnapping and trafficking of women. … Such trends could quite conceivably lead to increased crime, violence, and social tensions — or possibly even a greater proclivity for social instability. All in all, mass sex selection can be regarded as a “tragedy of the commons” dynamic, in which the aggregation of individual (parental) choices has the inadvertent result of degrading the quality of life for all.</p>
<p>Now more voluntary prostitution in such a context is not obviously a bad thing. Yes, kidnapping and crime are bad, but there is <del>little</del> <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2012/01/sex-ratio-violence.html">mixed</a> evidence such things are increasing due to having more males. There is, however, <del>good</del> <a href="http://www.bakadesuyo.com/why-do-the-chinese-save-so-much">evidence</a> <a href="http://www4.gsb.columbia.edu/ideasatwork/feature/729422/Why+Do+the+Chinese+Save+So+Much%3F">that</a> males now compete more by increasing their savings rate, which is overall good for the world.</p>
<p>This topic offers a good example of a conflict between sending desired <a href="http://meteuphoric.wordpress.com/2009/08/12/abortion-views-sexist/">signals</a> and getting desired outcomes. Since parents who selectively abort girls show favoritism toward boys, it can feel quite natural to signal your opinion that women have equal value by condemning such parents, and favoring policies to discourage their actions. Not doing so can make you seem anti-female. Yet since via supply and demand the abortions chosen by these parents directly increase the value of women, then all else equal discouraging their abortions reduces the value of women. So if you want women to have higher value, your signal is counter-productive.</p>
<p>Of course it is far from clear that the relative value of males and females should be the main consideration here. One might instead argue that if male lives are more pleasant overall, it is good that we create more of them instead of female lives. Yes, supply and demand may eventually equalize the quality of male and female lives, but until then why not have more lives that are more pleasant?</p>
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		<title>The Puberty Puzzle</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 01:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robin Hanson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Time magazine considers a big important puzzle: By the 1980s, the onset of puberty, if not actual menstruation, had gone into free fall&#8211;a change so sudden and pronounced that something more than normal evolution must have been at work. In &#8230; <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2011/10/the-puberty-puzzle.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Time</em> magazine considers a big important puzzle:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">By the 1980s, the onset of puberty, if not actual menstruation, had gone into free fall&#8211;a change so sudden and pronounced that something more than normal evolution must have been at work. In a landmark 1997 study of 17,000 [US] girls … more than 10% of white girls and an astonishing 37.8% of black girls were showing early breast development by age 8. … Later studies, one in 1998 and another in 2010, included Hispanics and produced similar results. On average, 2 out of every 10 white girls, 3 out of 10 Latinas and 4 out of 10 black girls are showing breast development by age 8. (<a href="http://www.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,2097388,00.html">more</a>)</p>
<p>They consider some possible explanations:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Obesity, a well-established puberty accelerant, is high on the list of suspects. … Data from China and India similarly indicate that race by itself isn&#8217;t a factor but general prosperity is. Onset of puberty is on a downward march in those countries too. … But even in Europe, where the standard of living has been high for decades and diets haven&#8217;t changed much, something strange is going on. A study of girls conducted in Denmark in 2008 found that the average age of breast development there is 8.86 years, which … is a full year earlier than it was for Danes as recently as 1993. …  Some investigators are focusing on environmental contaminants like PBBs and … bisphenol A … A number of studies have found that overweight boys may, if anything, suffer from delayed puberty.</p>
<p>Oddly they don&#8217;t even mention divorce and out-of-wedlock birth, factors that some theory suggests are crucial:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Father absence is indicative of the degree of polygyny (simultaneous and serial) in society. Polygyny of both kinds creates a shortage of women in reproductive age, and thus, early puberty will be advantageous. Available comparative data indicate that the degree of polygyny is associated with a decrease in the mean age of menarche across societies, as is the divorce rate a presumptive index of serial polygyny, in strictly monogamous societies. (<a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/S1090-5138(01)00073-3">more</a>)</p>
<p>This theory has some empirical support:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">As specified by evolutionary causal theories, younger sisters had earlier menarche than their older sisters in biologically disrupted families (n = 68) but not biologically intact families (n = 93). This effect was superseded, however, by a large moderating effect of paternal dysfunction. Younger sisters from disrupted families who were exposed to serious paternal dysfunction in early childhood attained menarche 11 months earlier than either their older sisters or other younger sisters from disrupted families who were not exposed to such dysfunction. (<a href="http://psycnet.apa.org/doi/10.1037/a0013065">more</a>)</p>
<p>I heard of this theory a while ago, but until now I hadn&#8217;t realized its radical implication: humans may have evolved adaptations to make major body/life features <em>conditional</em> on our social environment! If girl brains can order hormones to induce early puberty after seeing lots of nearby polygyny, how else might our bodies be contingent what our brains see about our social world? Do young brains see the level of violence,  prosperity, or work complexity around, and adjust hormone-induced plans for body size, immune system strength, or brain resources? Could this adjustment explain recent trends in mortality, height, or intelligence?  So many possibilities to consider!</p>
<p>Anthropologists often say that it is a mistake to look for &#8220;the&#8221; ancestral human environment or lifestyle, that what most defines humans is variety and adaptability. I&#8217;m going to take that view a lot more seriously from now on.</p>
<p><strong>Added 4p</strong>: Why are people so much more willing to use strange chemicals to explain earlier puberty that other trens like increasing IQ, lifespan, and height? Is it because chemicals are bad, and therefore can only explain bad things?</p>
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		<title>(Fem) Sex Is Selfish</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 00:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robin Hanson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Based on a previous study … that elicited &#8230; personal accounts of sexual motivations … Meston, a sexual psychophysiologist, and Buss, an evolutionary psychologist compiled a list of 237 distinct [sex] motivations … In researching the [2009] book [Why Women &#8230; <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2011/10/fem-sex-is-selfish.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Based on a previous study … that elicited &#8230; personal accounts of sexual motivations … Meston, a sexual psychophysiologist, and Buss, an evolutionary psychologist compiled a list of 237 distinct [sex] motivations … In researching the [2009] book [<em>Why Women Have Sex</em>] they asked over one thousand women to give a description of actual sexual encounters associated with any of these 237 reasons, mostly via online survey. These reasons are discussed in relation to the underlying motivations they point to and the likely evolutionary benefits they gave our ancestral mothers.(<a href="http://www.epjournal.net/filestore/EP08275283.pdf">more</a>)</p>
<p>The book <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Why-Women-Have-Sex-Understanding/dp/0805088342">Why Women Have Sex</a></em> has many fascinating tidbits, and provoked many thoughts in me. For example, I noticed that the vast majority of the female sex motives discussed in the book are selfish, i.e., primarily intended to benefit oneself, as opposed to one&#8217;s partner. For example, even pity sex seems mainly selfish:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Here is how one woman described sex as a way of boosting her self-confidence:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><em>I had sex with a couple of guys because I felt sorry for them.  These guys were virgins and I felt bad that they had never had sex before so I had sex with them. I felt like I was doing them a big favor that no one else had over done. I felt power over them, like they were weaklings under me and I was in control. It boosted my confidence to be the teacher in the situation and made me feel more desirable.</em></p>
<p>The main altruistic sex motive is a part of &#8220;love&#8221;:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Of the more than two hundred reasons given for having sex, love [#5, to express my love, #9, I was in love] and emotional closeness [#12] were ranked in the top twelve for women. &#8230;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">According to the well-known … &#8220;triangular theory of love,&#8221; love consists of the distinct components of intimacy, passion, and commitment.  Intimacy is the experienced of warmth toward another person that arises from feelings of closeness and connectedness. It involves the desire to give and receive emotional support and to share one&#8217;s innermost thoughts and experiences.  … Here is how one woman in our study experienced this [intimacy] dimension of love:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><em>I fell that sex can be one of many physical expressions of love, though sex is not always an expression of love. When I make love with my husband, it is an intimacy, trust, and exposure of myself that I share only with him … because I love him. Sex can be a way of fulfilling my husband&#8217;s needs (physical, emotional, psychological) that can&#8217;t be achieved any other way and [it] lets him know that I love him and vice versa. &#8230;</em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Passion … refers to intense romantic feelings and sexual desire for another person, … &#8220;a hot intense emotion&#8221; characterized by an intense longing for union with another. …</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Commitment &#8230; requires decision-making. &#8230; The long-term decision involves a willingness to maintain the relationship through thick and thin. Many women talked about how commitment was an essential component of love for them. In fact, some said that they used having sex as a way to try to ensure commitment from a partner they felt loved them.<em><br />
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<p>So, out of the of 237 female reasons for sex, love is in #5,9. &#8220;Please my partner&#8221; is #11 (its #10 for men). On love, only one of its three parts, intimacy, has an clearly altruistic component. Six desired effects of intimacy are mentioned: experiencing warmth, giving support, receiving support, sharing experiences, showing love, and being shown love. Of these, only one, giving support or meeting needs, seems clearly altruistic (though even this <em>could</em> be selfish). So one of the six desired effects of one of the three parts of love, mentioned twice in the top ten reasons for sex, seems altruistic. Direct clear altruism is #11. Not nothing, but not a lot either.</p>
<p>People often complain that economists assume selfishness too often, and point to intense close relationships as clear evidence of altruism. But if even in this case our motives seem overwhelmingly selfish, economists&#8217;s usual approximation looks pretty good.</p>
<p>FYI, here are the top 15 female sex reasons, from that original <a href="http://www.homepage.psy.utexas.edu/homepage/group/busslab/pdffiles/why%20humans%20have%20sex%202007.pdf">survey</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">1. I was attracted to the person<br />
2. I wanted to experience the physical pleasure<br />
3. It feels good<br />
4. I wanted to show my affection to the person<br />
5. I wanted to express my love for the person<br />
6. I was sexually aroused and wanted the release<br />
7. I was ‘‘horny’’<br />
8. It’s fun<br />
9. I realized I was in love<br />
10. I was ‘‘in the heat of the moment’’<br />
11. I wanted to please my partner<br />
12. I desired emotional closeness (i.e., intimacy)<br />
13. I wanted the pure pleasure<br />
14. I wanted to achieve an orgasm<br />
15. It’s exciting, adventurous</p>
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		<title>Charity And Temptation</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 01:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robin Hanson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bryan Caplan responded to John Marsh: Nearly two-thirds of poor children … reside in [single-parent] homes. … &#8220;If poor mothers married the fathers of their children nearly three-quarters would immediately be lifted out of poverty.&#8221; In a world of cheap, &#8230; <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2011/10/charity-and-temptation.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan Caplan responded to John Marsh:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">Nearly two-thirds of poor children … reside in [single-parent] homes. … &#8220;If poor mothers married the fathers of their children nearly three-quarters would immediately be lifted out of poverty.&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">In a world of cheap, reliable contraception, any woman can easily avoid single motherhood with near-certainty.  Simply use birth control until you find and marry a reliable man.  Avoiding single motherhood, to be blunt, is a choice.</p>
<p>Bryan further commented:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">b. Sex with birth control, unlike abstinence, does not lead to chronic burning lust.<br />
c. Potentially poor women who delay child-bearing have a high chance of finding a reliable man before becoming infertile.</p>
<p>Karl Smith took issue:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Baby lust is quite real, almost certainly genetically determined and probably explains a fair fraction of the differences in outcome among women. … Potentially poor women [do not] have a high chance of finding a reliable man before becoming infertile. … There is a serious dearth of reliable men. .. Bryan&#8217;s prescription of promiscuous birth-controlled sex lowers a women’s rank in the marriage market. … My natural assumption [is] that poor single mothers are engaging in utility maximizing behavior. This implies that the alternatives to being a poor single mother are worse and that people accept this fate because they have low endowments in the marriage market.</p>
<p>Let me first make two points:</p>
<ol>
<li>The reliability of men is only an issue because we have weakened the commitment of marriage. Most farmer societies made marriage into a strong commitment, and encouraged young women to hold out for it. This led to an equilibrium where most women, even poor ones, married, so that most kids had two parents. Men now choose to be unreliable more often because we have greatly lowered its penalties.</li>
<li>Even with weak marriage it is possible to identify reliable poor men. If you can&#8217;t tell, ask your parents, grandparents, or their siblings. But the hypergamous mating preferences of women typically lead them to prefer other men, especially in a relatively rich society like ours.</li>
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<p>What to do? First, why not offer the <em>option</em> of a strong marriage commitment? More women would end up with reliable husbands if couples could choose between strong marriage, weak marriage, or no marriage. But surely even with this option, many women in our rich society would still choose single parenthood, and the relative poverty it implies. What then?</p>
<p>Now Bryan is clearly right &#8212; this is in fact a choice. But Karl is also right &#8212; it is a choice made in the face of relatively strong desires. The key question is: how weak do temptations have to be to make the choices they influence unworthy of charity? We feel only weak inclinations to help people who choose poverty, and could easily have chosen otherwise. But we feel much stronger inclinations to help folks who could have avoided poverty only via quite unusual levels of self-control and determination. Where in this spectrum does the temptation to single parenthood lie?</p>
<p>Given forager sharing norms, forager fathers only needed to reliably help kids for a few years. But farmers, who shared less, had to set a higher self-control bar for charity eligibility. A farmer could quickly starve by being too generous with neighboring charity cases. Now that we are richer, we <em>can</em> be more indulgent, but it seems to me an open question whether we should. I tend to agree with Bryan that very poor foreigners seem more deserving of aid that self-indulgent not-so-poor natives.</p>
<p><strong>Added 5p</strong>: Karl Smith <a href="http://modeledbehavior.com/2011/10/03/charity-and-dessert/">responds</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Central to Byran and somewhat shockingly to me – Robin’s – thinking is whether or not the single parents deserve charity.<br />
On Facebook I think Robin framed the question as “how weak do temptations have to be before they make people less deserving of charity”<br />
My clear answer would be that there is no level so low. Human suffering is bad. Reductions in human suffering are good.<br />
Why humans are suffering is of concern to us in knowing when our interventions might be productive but it doesn’t affect whether they are warranted.</p>
<p>If we commit ahead of time to making our help contingent on certain behavior, that can have good effects in inducing such behavior. This is probably the origin of our intuitions that certain behaviors make folks less worthy of help.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many folks just love to hear that, among heterosexual men, it is homophobic men who are most aroused by gay male porn. &#8220;They are just trying to deny their feelings,&#8221; they might say. I&#8217;ll bet such folks will similarly love &#8230; <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2011/09/who-cheats.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many folks just love to hear <a href="http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn">that</a>, among heterosexual men, it is homophobic men who are most aroused by gay male porn. &#8220;They are just trying to deny their feelings,&#8221; they might say. I&#8217;ll bet such folks will similarly love to hear that men who feel more sexual performance anxiety tend to cheat more on their spouses. &#8220;For women its about feeling connected, but for men its all about  ego,&#8221; they might also say. The <em><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/men-and-women-have-different-reasons-for-cheating-study-shows/2011/08/22/gIQAxIOMxJ_story.html">Post</a></em>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">For women, they found low relationship satisfaction was often tied to infidelity. Women who were unhappy in their relationships were 2.6 times more likely to cheat than women who were satisfied. And women who reported being incompatible with their partner in terms of sexual values and attitudes were 2.9 times more likely to have an affair.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">One of the findings that surprised Milhausen most was that men who reported higher rates of sexual inhibition because of performance anxiety were more likely to cheat. “If you have sex with someone outside of your relationship, you’ll never have to see them again,” she says. “You won’t have those problems with wounded pride or ego.&#8221; &#8230;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Men and women who were less concerned about the consequences of their sexual behavior were more likely to cheat, as were people who could be easily aroused. … Her take-away from the report is that people who want to avoid affairs should be as honest as possible about their needs.</p>
<p>Now if you look at the actual study, you&#8217;ll find some discrepancies with this summary.  Not only won&#8217;t you find any support for this last claim about honesty, you&#8217;ll also find that easy sexual arousal does <em>not</em> predict cheating in women, and that sexual performance anxiety has exactly the <em>same</em> effect on women as on men. Interesting that the female reporter (Ellen McCarthy) left that last bit out.</p>
<p>Even more interesting, you&#8217;ll find that, after controlling for other factors, <em>none</em> of the following significantly predicts who cheats: age, importance of religion, being married, sexual satisfaction in the relationship, and compatibility on the importance or frequency of sex. When they don&#8217;t control for other factors, older, less religious, and fully employed folks cheat more.</p>
<p>So to sum up, both men and women cheat more when they are less afraid of getting caught, when they tend to do things they later regret, and when performance anxiety tends to inhibit them in sex. For men another cheating predictor is easy sexual arousal, while for women added predictors are overall relationship unhappiness and feeling incompatible on ‘‘attitudes towards (or values and ideas) about sex&#8221; (which, after controlling for compatibility on sex frequency and importance, sounds to me like another proxy for relationship unhappiness).</p>
<p>Some previous results on cheating:<span id="more-27673"></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Extraversion, neuroticism, and openness to experience were positively correlated with short-term mating, while agreeableness and conscientiousness were negatively correlated with short-term mating. &#8230; A high self-monitor &#8230; easily changes with the situation. … [and] tend[s] to not establish committed relationships. (<a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2011/08/hypocrites-have-flings.html">more</a>)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">He found less cheating on religious people, on older and less agreeable men, and on conscientious and closed-to-experience women. (<a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2011/06/are-foragers-open.html">more</a>)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Men are more likely to be unfaithful if their fathers had been. (<a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/sons-of-unfaithful-men-more-likely-to-cheat-study/article2076764/">more</a>)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The lifetime rate of infidelity for men over 60 increased to 28 percent in 2006, up from 20 percent in 1991. For women over 60, the increase is more striking: to 15 percent, up from 5 percent in 1991. (<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/28/health/28well.html">more</a>)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The more extramarital flings a couple enjoys, the more likely they are to remain together and the happier they will be. &#8230; Subjects who had flings with local townsfolk did not enjoy the marital benefits that were realized by those who had flings with people who lived far away. (<a href="http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickover/pc/marriage_cheat.html">more</a>)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Study 1 (N = 375) showed that prayer for the partner predicted lower levels of extradyadic romantic behavior over a 6-week period, over and beyond relationship satisfaction, and initial levels of extradyadic romantic behavior. In Study 2 (N = 83), we used an experimental design to show that participants assigned to pray for each day for 4 weeks engaged in lower levels of extradyadic romantic behavior. (<a href="http://www.biomedsearch.com/nih/Faith-unfaithfulness-Can-praying-your/20718545.html">more</a>)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Men who are completely economically dependent on their female partners are five times more likely to cheat than men in relationships with women who earned similar amounts. (<a href="http://articles.cnn.com/2010-08-16/living/income.men.women.cheating_1_female-partners-study-money?_s=PM:LIVING">more</a>)</p>
<p>Some details from the new <a href="http://www.springerlink.com/content/u2037170j3200754/">study</a>.  Abstract:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">506 men and 412 women … indicated they were in a monogamous sexual relationship. … Almost one-quarter of men (23.2%) and 19.2% of women indicated that they had “cheated” during their current relationship. Among men, a logistic regression analysis, explaining 17% of the variance, revealed that a higher propensity of sexual excitation (SES) and sexual inhibition due to “the threat of performance concerns” (SIS1), a lower propensity for sexual inhibition due to “the threat of performance consequences” [e.g., getting caught] (SIS2), and an increased tendency to engage in regretful sexual behavior during negative affective states were all significant predictors of infidelity [= MSQ regret]. In women, a similar regression analysis explained 21% of the variance in engaging in infidelity. In addition to SIS1 and SIS2, for which the same patterns were found as for men, low relationship happiness and low compatibility in terms of sexual attitudes and values were predictive of infidelity.</p>
<p>Key regressions:</p>
<p><a href="http://overcomingbias-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/cheatmen.gif"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-27674" title="cheatmen" src="http://overcomingbias-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/cheatmen.gif" alt="" width="371" height="369" /></a><a href="http://overcomingbias-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/cheatwomen.gif"></a></p>
<p><a href="http://overcomingbias-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/cheatwomen.gif"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-27675" title="cheatwomen" src="http://overcomingbias-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/cheatwomen.gif" alt="" width="369" height="367" /></a></p>
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		<title>Hypocrites Have Flings</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robin Hanson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting clues about short vs. long term mating: Participants accurately identified an opposite sex person’s sociosexuality (i.e., how comfortable one is in engaging in short-term mating), … by attending to how often the individual gazed at a confederate, how much &#8230; <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2011/08/hypocrites-have-flings.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting clues about short vs. long term mating:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Participants accurately identified an opposite sex person’s sociosexuality (i.e., how comfortable one is in engaging in short-term mating), … by attending to how often the individual gazed at a confederate, how much time they spent trying to solve a puzzle (as opposed to looking at the confederate), and the number of eyebrow flashes the target displayed. … A few behaviors led participants to misidentify sociosexuality &#8230; includ[ing] smiling, laughing, closeness to the confederate, and the confederate’s attractiveness and provocativeness of dress. …</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The Big Five traits of extraversion, neuroticism, and openness to experience were positively correlated with short-term mating, while agreeableness and conscientiousness were negatively correlated with short-term mating. …</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Self-monitoring &#8230; measures one’s ability to change his or her behavior depending on the particular situation; thus, it refers to responsiveness to social and interpersonal cues of situations. A high self-monitor would be a person who easily changes with the situation, while a low-self monitor tends to be very consistent across situations. &#8230;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Individuals with high self-monitoring tend to not establish committed relationships and maintain an unrestrictive sexual orientation. &#8230; High self-monitors seek to obtain mates who can provide rewarding outcomes such as social approval, status, or new opportunities. In contrast, low self monitors, seek mates for mutual satisfaction, and aim to derive pleasure from simply being with their partners. … This correlation leads high self-monitors to prefer partners with high social status, physical attractiveness, financial resources, and sex appeal, and low self-monitors to prefer partners with loyalty, honesty, kindness, and similar beliefs and education. (<a href="http://137.140.1.71/jsec/articles/volume4/issue4/StroutVol4Iss4.pdf">more</a>; HT <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2011/08/indirection-signals.html#comment-493424">Rob</a>)</p>
<p>So those who are better able to read and respond to subtle social clues are more likely to engage in short term mating, which presumably includes a fair bit of cheating on concurrent long term mates. What else would you expect from homo hypocritus?</p>
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		<title>Emotionally, Men Are Far, Women Near</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robin Hanson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Me theorizing two weeks ago: We should expect men to be more self-aware, transparent, and simple regarding their feelings about short-term sexual attractions, while women have more complex, layered, and opaque feelings on this subject. In contrast, women should be &#8230; <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2011/08/emotional-men-are-far-women-near.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me theorizing two weeks ago:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">We should expect men to be more self-aware, transparent, and simple regarding their feelings about short-term sexual attractions, while women have more complex, layered, and opaque feelings on this subject. In contrast, women should be more more self-aware, transparent, and simple regarding their feelings about long-term pair-bonding, while men have more complex, layered, and opaque feelings on this subject. By being more opaque on sensitive subjects, we can keep ourselves from giving off clear signals of an inclination to betray. (<a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2011/07/homo-hypocritus-mates.html">more</a>)</p>
<p>Now add two more assumptions:</p>
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<li>Each gender is more emotional about the topic area (short vs. long term mating) where its feelings are more complex, layered, and opaque.</li>
<li>Long term mating thoughts tend to be in far mode, while short term mating thoughts tend to be in near mode. (<a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/10/sex-is-near-love-is-far.html">Love is far, sex is near</a>.)</li>
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<p>Given these assumptions we should expect emotional men to be more in far mode, and emotional women to be more in near mode. (At least if mating-related emotions are a big part of emotions overall.) And since far modes tend to have a more positive mood, we should expect men to have more positive emotions, and women more negative.</p>
<p>In fact, even though overall men and women are just as emotional, men report more positive and less negative emotions than women. Also, after listening to an emotional story, male hormones help one remember its far-mode-abstract gist, while female hormones help one remembrer its near-mode-concrete details. (Supporting study quotes below.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been wondering for a while why we don&#8217;t see a general correlation between near vs. far and emotionality, and I guess this explains it &#8211; the correlation is there but it flips between genders. This also helps explain common patterns in when the genders see each other as overly or underly emotional. Women are more emotional about details (e.g., his smell, that song), while men are more emotional about generalities (e.g., patriotism, fairness). Now for those study quotes:<span id="more-27467"></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Extensive research demonstrates that the valence of mood triggers the level of processing styles: Positive mood triggers global and abstract processing, whereas negative mood triggers local and concrete processing. These different processing styles inﬂuence task performance, such that positive mood improves performance on tasks that require abstract thinking, whereas negative mood improves performance of tasks that require concrete thinking. (<a href="http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/1047840X.2010.503184">more</a>)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Women do not report emotions more frequently than men. &#8230; This ﬁnding holds after controlling for &#8230;. sociodemographic characteristics &#8230; and social statuses &#8230;. Younger persons and those with lower levels of household income report more frequent feelings. &#8230; Men report positive feelings more often than women. &#8230; [This] remains signiﬁcant after sociodemographic and status characteristics are included. … Women report negative feelings signiﬁcantly more often than men. &#8230; Men report feeling calm and excited more often than women, whereas women report feeling anxious and sad more often than men. (<a href="http://www.fsu.edu/~soc/people/simon/simon_gender.pdf">more</a>)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">We predicted that, relative to placebo, [memory inhibitor] propranolol would impair memory for information central to the story line, but not memory for peripheral story details in men. Conversely, propranolol would impair memory for peripheral details, but not for central information in women. Here we confirm this prediction. … These findings … provide support for the hypothesis that … emotional arousal enhances long-term memory for central information in men, &#8230; and enhances long-term memory for peripheral details in women. (<a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/S1074-7427(02)00019-9">more</a>)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The BEM Sex-Role Inventory [is] an assessment of sex-related masculine and feminine traits. The results reveal no differences in recall of either central or peripheral story information when considering the performance of actual men and women, but a significant difference when considering male and females as determined by their BEM test scores. “BEM” males (subjects with net male BEM scores) showed significantly enhanced recall of central emotional information. “BEM” females did not. Both groups showed significantly enhanced recall of peripheral emotional information, although this effect appeared larger in BEM females than in BEM males. (<a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.concog.2003.11.003">more</a>)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Robust sex influences exist &#8230; on the amygdala’s role in emotional memory formation, as well as on retention of central information (gist) and detail for an emotional event. Evidence also suggests that the well-documented effects of stress hormones on memory depend upon sex hormone levels. … Naturally [hormonally] cycling women exhibited enhanced memory of story details, but not of central information (gist), in the emotional compared with neutral story conditions. In contrast, women using hormonal contraception exhibited enhanced memory of gist, but not story details, in the emotional compared with neutral story conditions. (<a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.nlm.2011.06.013">more</a>)</p>
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		<title>Why Men Are Bad At &#8220;Feelings&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robin Hanson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mating in mammals has a basic asymmetry &#8211; females must invest more in each child than males. This can lead to an equilibrium where males focus on impressing and having sex with as many females as possible, while females do &#8230; <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2011/07/homo-hypocritus-mates.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mating in mammals has a basic asymmetry &#8211; females must invest more in each child than males. This can lead to an equilibrium where males focus on impressing and having sex with as many females as possible, while females do most of the child-rearing and choose impressive males.</p>
<p>Since human kids require extra child-rearing, human foragers developed pair-bonding, wherein for a <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/10/how-bonded-were-pairs.html">few years</a> a male gave substantial resource support to help raising a kid in trade for credible signs that the kid was his. Farmers strengthened such bonds into &#8220;marriage&#8221; &#8212; while both lived, the man gave resources sufficient to raise kids, and the woman only had sex with him. Such strong pair-bonds were held together not only by threats of social punishment, but also by strong feelings of attachment.</p>
<p>Such bonds can break, however. And because they are asymmetric, their betrayal is also asymmetric. Women betray bonds more by temporarily having fertile sex with other men, while men betray bonds more by directing resources more permanently to other women. So when farmer husbands and wives watch for signs of betrayal, they watch for different things. Husbands watch wives more for signs of a temporary inclination toward short-term mating with other men, while wives watch husbands more for signs of an inclination to shift toward a long-term resource-giving bond with other women. (Of course they both watch for both sorts of inclinations; the issue is emphasis.)</p>
<p>This asymmetric watching for signs of betrayal produces asymmetric pressures on appearances. While a man can be more straight-forward and honest with himself and others about his inclinations toward short-term sex, he should be more careful with the signs he shows about his inclinations toward long term attachments with women. Similarly, while a woman can be more straight-forward and honest with herself and others about her inclinations toward long-term attachments with men, she should be more careful with the signs she shows about her inclinations toward short term sex with men.</p>
<p>For both men and women, carelessly strong signs of an inclination toward betrayal could needlessly break their marriage. Of course it may sometimes be in one&#8217;s interest to show weak signs of such an inclination, as a threat to induce better terms of trade in the relation. But such brinksmanship should be done very carefully.</p>
<p>Men and women may have evolved, either genetically or culturally, to adapt to these pressures on their appearances. If so, then we should expect men to be more self-aware, transparent, and simple regarding their feelings about short-term sexual attractions, while women have more complex, layered, and opaque feelings on this subject. In contrast, women should be more more self-aware, transparent, and simple regarding their feelings about long-term pair-bonding, while men have more complex, layered, and opaque feelings on this subject. By being more opaque on sensitive subjects, we can keep ourselves from giving off clear signals of an inclination to betray.</p>
<p>Standard crude stereotypes of gender differences roughly fit these predictions! That is, when the subject is one&#8217;s immediate lust and sexual attraction to others, by reputation men are more straight-forward and transparent, while women are more complex and opaque, even to themselves. But when the subject is one&#8217;s inclination toward and feelings about long-term attachments, by reputation women are more self-aware and men are more complex and opaque, even to themselves.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s sum up. Why don&#8217;t men express their &#8220;feelings&#8221;?  (At least about &#8220;love&#8221; &#8211; they easily express &#8220;feelings&#8221; about sex.) And why don&#8217;t women know when they are &#8220;horny&#8221;? Perhaps because such knowledge is dangerous &#8211; if you know it, then others may learn what you know from you. Which might destroy your marriage. So our feelings may be most opaque to us when we need them to be opaque to others. Homo hypocritus mates.</p>
<p><strong>Added 10a:</strong> Similar incentives apply in the gradual creation of a long-term bond. He slowly becomes more inclined to devote resources to her over a long term, while she slowly becomes more inclined to become sexually exclusive with him. Neither side should too easily give all they have to offer before the other side has given all it has to offer. Opaque feelings help to manage such a slow matched escalation in feelings.</p>
<p>This whole story requires that given ambiguous signals people tend to assume the best, rather than assume the worst. Seems to apply to people, though I&#8217;m not sure why.</p>
<p><strong>Added 1Aug</strong>: As I <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2011/07/homo-hypocritus-mates.html#comment-488398">commented</a>, &#8220;husbands having outside sex, and women breaking off the long term relation, are both weaker forms of betrayal than vice versa. As a weaker form of betrayal, people feel more free to do them.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Beware Morality Porn</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 00:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robin Hanson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Porn&#8221; stimulates strong sexual desire and satisfaction in ways detached from many of the contextual features that usually accompany such desire and satisfaction in real and praiseworthy sex. Critics complain that this detachment is often bad or unhealthy. Metaphorical applications &#8230; <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2011/07/beware-morality-porn.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Porn&#8221; stimulates strong sexual desire and satisfaction in ways detached from many of the contextual features that usually accompany such desire and satisfaction in real and praiseworthy sex. Critics complain that this detachment is often bad or unhealthy.</p>
<p>Metaphorical applications of this porn concept include <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_porn">food porn</a>, <a href="http://www.wordspy.com/words/gadgetporn.asp">gadget porn</a>, <a href="http://www.wordspy.com/words/shelterporn.asp">shelter porn</a>, and <a href="http://chartporn.org/">chart porn</a>. &#8220;X porn&#8221; refers to stimuli that induce desires and/or satisfactions usually related to X, but detached in possibly unhealthy ways from context that ideally accompanies X.  Food porn, for example, might entice you to eat foods with poor nutrition, or distract you from socializing while eating.</p>
<p>Of course how fair it is to call something &#8220;X porn&#8221; depends on how bad it is to desire X detached from some ideal context. For example, isn&#8217;t it ok to sometimes eat really tasty but unhealthy food, as long as you don&#8217;t do that too often? And what&#8217;s so wrong about loving cool-looking gadgets, even ones that aren&#8217;t very useful &#8211; everyone&#8217;s gotta have a hobby, right?  In fact, many use &#8220;X porn&#8221; terms not as criticism but to say they like a stimulation even though others may disapprove of its detachment.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s one case where the &#8220;X porn&#8221; criticism seems to me especially solid: morality.  Let us call a stimuli &#8220;morality porn&#8221; if it gives people a strong desire to act morally, and a feeling of satisfaction of that desire, but without their actually acting morally. It seems an especially bad idea for people to feel moral, without actually acting moral.</p>
<p>For example, the <em>Lord of the Rings</em> movies are some of my favorites. They let viewers vicariously feel Frodo&#8217;s moral quandary &#8211; whether or not to sacrifice himself for the greater good &#8211; and then vicariously feel Frodo feeling good about himself for doing the right thing. Many war movies function similarly as morality porn.</p>
<p>But is this good? First it might be bad for people to feel good about their morality when they haven&#8217;t actually been moral &#8211; maybe this will make them feel like they&#8217;ve done enough when they&#8217;ve hardly done anything. Second, it is way too easy to imagine from the comfort of your seat that you would do the heroic thing in the situation on the screen, when in fact you would do no such thing.</p>
<p>Third, movie morality is often unhealthily detached from important moral context. For example, movies usually focus more on whether characters have the strength of will to do what is obviously right than on whether they have the wisdom to discern what is right. And movie characters rarely have to choose between the praise of associates and doing the right thing - key associates usually support doing the right thing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying all porn is bad, or even that any porn is bad. Or even that morality is good. But if I was going to worry about some sort of porn, I&#8217;d worry most about morality porn.</p>
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