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		<title>By: Ah, statistics… 65% of people say they are smarter than the average &#124; Octavian Mihai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ah, statistics… 65% of people say they are smarter than the average &#124; Octavian Mihai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 04:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Great somehow related article by Robin Hanson. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Overcoming Bias : The Biggest Lie? -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/03/do-we-need-lies.html#comment-444989</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Overcoming Bias : The Biggest Lie? -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Jake Russ. Jake Russ said: &quot;The Invention of Lying&quot; was deceptively good. Made me think. Robin Hanson makes some good observations http://bit.ly/cSEohV [Spoiler Alert] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Jake Russ. Jake Russ said: &quot;The Invention of Lying&quot; was deceptively good. Made me think. Robin Hanson makes some good observations <a href="http://bit.ly/cSEohV" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/cSEohV</a> [Spoiler Alert] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Patri Friedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patri Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, I also watched this movie through the lens of signaling, self-image, and the nature of humanity, and found that it made an otherwise so-so movie much more interesting.  The idea that the guy turns down the first cute random sex partner that he has the opportunity to seduce was a ludicrously hilarious picture of male human nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, I also watched this movie through the lens of signaling, self-image, and the nature of humanity, and found that it made an otherwise so-so movie much more interesting.  The idea that the guy turns down the first cute random sex partner that he has the opportunity to seduce was a ludicrously hilarious picture of male human nature.</p>
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		<title>By: Linkage is Good for You: Premature Congratulations Edition &#124; In Mala Fide</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/03/do-we-need-lies.html#comment-443872</link>
		<dc:creator>Linkage is Good for You: Premature Congratulations Edition &#124; In Mala Fide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Robin Hanson &#8211; &#8220;The Biggest Lie?&#8221; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sofa</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/03/do-we-need-lies.html#comment-443817</link>
		<dc:creator>Sofa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Evil Man-moth: I know, it is sad that Rickys film even gets slammed here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Evil Man-moth: I know, it is sad that Rickys film even gets slammed here.</p>
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		<title>By: The Invention of Lying (2009) Movie Trailer</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/03/do-we-need-lies.html#comment-443750</link>
		<dc:creator>The Invention of Lying (2009) Movie Trailer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] else. You could fill up a Twitter feed with funny quotes from that movie. It reminded me ofThe Invention of Lying (2009) - I think The Invention of Lying should be mandatory watching for anyone that values honesty above [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] else. You could fill up a Twitter feed with funny quotes from that movie. It reminded me ofThe Invention of Lying (2009) &#8211; I think The Invention of Lying should be mandatory watching for anyone that values honesty above [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PaulG</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/03/do-we-need-lies.html#comment-443737</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 04:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other major problem with the premise of the film is that not only can no one lie, but people are hopelessly naive about &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; that people tell them, implying that they also cannot conjure up the idea that people could be wrong about things. He goes into a bank and tells them that the computer has the wrong balance written down and the teller says that the computer must be wrong. Even if I knew someone could lie and they came in and told me that (if I were a teller) their bank balance is wrong I&#039;d be inclined to believe that they just forgot some spending they had done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other major problem with the premise of the film is that not only can no one lie, but people are hopelessly naive about <i>anything</i> that people tell them, implying that they also cannot conjure up the idea that people could be wrong about things. He goes into a bank and tells them that the computer has the wrong balance written down and the teller says that the computer must be wrong. Even if I knew someone could lie and they came in and told me that (if I were a teller) their bank balance is wrong I&#8217;d be inclined to believe that they just forgot some spending they had done.</p>
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		<title>By: Evil Mammoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil Mammoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Gervais fan, I&#039;m a bit saddened that he didn&#039;t make a film worthy of the interpretation it is receiving here (or at the &lt;em&gt;New York Times&lt;/em&gt;.  It seems obvious that most of the choices in &lt;em&gt;The Invention of Lying&lt;/em&gt; were made to conjure up mostly cheap laughs and don&#039;t really require much in the way of analysis.

Use it as a talking point, sure, but I couldn&#039;t bring myself to say the movie is infused with enough thought to possess a meaningful thesis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Gervais fan, I&#8217;m a bit saddened that he didn&#8217;t make a film worthy of the interpretation it is receiving here (or at the <em>New York Times</em>.  It seems obvious that most of the choices in <em>The Invention of Lying</em> were made to conjure up mostly cheap laughs and don&#8217;t really require much in the way of analysis.</p>
<p>Use it as a talking point, sure, but I couldn&#8217;t bring myself to say the movie is infused with enough thought to possess a meaningful thesis.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2010-03-03 &#171; memor.ia blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2010-03-03 &#171; memor.ia blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike Kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin writes: &quot;A world without lies would still contain art, laughter, fiction, etc. – we’d just be more honest about the functions they serve.&quot;

Certainly this world would also favor people who are naturally gifted but not good at lying/seeing through lies.  High functioning autistics might be better off.  But how do you convince people who benefit from lying who stand to lose out from a more honest, transparent world/  If pretty much all of us are good at lying, does this confer some good benefits--maybe people are nice to a broader group of people because they&#039;re not exactly sure what people&#039;s status is, whereas if everything were transparent, one could be a beast to one&#039;s inferiors and a suck up to one&#039;s superiors.

Also, wouldn&#039;t a world of perfect transparency favor people who were good chess player types, who can work well with perfect information, and hurt people who are better at acting under uncertainty--and so the most powerful maybe would be the chess players who could calculate the moves in a world of transparent people, and not the people who are good at gaining power in an uncertain world with lots of guesswork about other people and their motives, which seems potentially a better sort to have in power because the world seems more about guess work than about chess game calculations, at least in the political realm.  I guess this is basically a Nassim-Taleb-esque point, not to say NT would endorse it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin writes: &#8220;A world without lies would still contain art, laughter, fiction, etc. – we’d just be more honest about the functions they serve.&#8221;</p>
<p>Certainly this world would also favor people who are naturally gifted but not good at lying/seeing through lies.  High functioning autistics might be better off.  But how do you convince people who benefit from lying who stand to lose out from a more honest, transparent world/  If pretty much all of us are good at lying, does this confer some good benefits&#8211;maybe people are nice to a broader group of people because they&#8217;re not exactly sure what people&#8217;s status is, whereas if everything were transparent, one could be a beast to one&#8217;s inferiors and a suck up to one&#8217;s superiors.</p>
<p>Also, wouldn&#8217;t a world of perfect transparency favor people who were good chess player types, who can work well with perfect information, and hurt people who are better at acting under uncertainty&#8211;and so the most powerful maybe would be the chess players who could calculate the moves in a world of transparent people, and not the people who are good at gaining power in an uncertain world with lots of guesswork about other people and their motives, which seems potentially a better sort to have in power because the world seems more about guess work than about chess game calculations, at least in the political realm.  I guess this is basically a Nassim-Taleb-esque point, not to say NT would endorse it.</p>
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