Comments on: Food Not Med http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/01/food-not-med.html Overcoming Bias is economist Robin Hanson’s blog, on honesty, signaling, disagreement, forecasting, and the far future. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:45:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Nick Tarleton http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/01/food-not-med.html#comment-441377 Nick Tarleton Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:54:06 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=21562#comment-441377 <blockquote>Maybe, just maybe, the death of friends and relatives is disturbing at a deeply fundamental level. Maybe, just maybe, this overwhelming reaction of loss is magnified to inhuman levels when these deaths are entering your deepest and oldest brain ALL DAY LONG. Maybe, just maybe, these reporters are empathizing with the locals at a deep level, reflecting accurately their situation, emotional as it inescapably is.</blockquote> You're probably right, and we should be understanding, but why should this mean we can't talk about factual accuracy at the same time? <blockquote>The content and leaning of this blog is so overwhelmingly and embarrassingly privileged and entitled and removed.</blockquote> That doesn't mean they aren't sometimes true.

Maybe, just maybe, the death of friends and relatives is disturbing at a deeply fundamental level. Maybe, just maybe, this overwhelming reaction of loss is magnified to inhuman levels when these deaths are entering your deepest and oldest brain ALL DAY LONG. Maybe, just maybe, these reporters are empathizing with the locals at a deep level, reflecting accurately their situation, emotional as it inescapably is.

You’re probably right, and we should be understanding, but why should this mean we can’t talk about factual accuracy at the same time?

The content and leaning of this blog is so overwhelmingly and embarrassingly privileged and entitled and removed.

That doesn’t mean they aren’t sometimes true.

]]> By: Randall Reetz http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/01/food-not-med.html#comment-441359 Randall Reetz Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:52:44 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=21562#comment-441359 Maybe, just maybe, the death of friends and relatives is disturbing at a deeply fundamental level. Maybe, just maybe, this overwhelming reaction of loss is magnified to inhuman levels when these deaths are entering your deepest and oldest brain ALL DAY LONG. Maybe, just maybe, these reporters are empathizing with the locals at a deep level, reflecting accurately their situation, emotional as it inescapably is. The content and leaning of this blog is so overwhelmingly and embarrassingly privileged and entitled and removed. Maybe just maybe, it is really difficult to accumulate, prepare, and distribute 3 million meals three times a day across a nation with no stable infrastructure of any kind. Are you in Haiti? Are you working in a significant way to directly effect the effective feeding of 9 million meals a day? Please! Randall Maybe, just maybe, the death of friends and relatives is disturbing at a deeply fundamental level. Maybe, just maybe, this overwhelming reaction of loss is magnified to inhuman levels when these deaths are entering your deepest and oldest brain ALL DAY LONG. Maybe, just maybe, these reporters are empathizing with the locals at a deep level, reflecting accurately their situation, emotional as it inescapably is.

The content and leaning of this blog is so overwhelmingly and embarrassingly privileged and entitled and removed.

Maybe just maybe, it is really difficult to accumulate, prepare, and distribute 3 million meals three times a day across a nation with no stable infrastructure of any kind.

Are you in Haiti? Are you working in a significant way to directly effect the effective feeding of 9 million meals a day? Please!

Randall

]]> By: Singularity7337 http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/01/food-not-med.html#comment-441356 Singularity7337 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:21:42 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=21562#comment-441356 There's also been some recent pieces that describe a situation of too many doctors. They actually need nurses--and doctors later. There’s also been some recent pieces that describe a situation of too many doctors. They actually need nurses–and doctors later.

]]> By: We don’t actually care about Haitians « Robert Wiblin http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/01/food-not-med.html#comment-441220 We don’t actually care about Haitians « Robert Wiblin Sun, 24 Jan 2010 05:49:24 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=21562#comment-441220 [...] this measure we can be pretty confident we in the West don’t much actually care about the welfare of the Haitians’ whose plight we claim to be distressed [...] [...] this measure we can be pretty confident we in the West don’t much actually care about the welfare of the Haitians’ whose plight we claim to be distressed [...]

]]> By: Tweets that mention Overcoming Bias : Food Not Med -- Topsy.com http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/01/food-not-med.html#comment-441181 Tweets that mention Overcoming Bias : Food Not Med -- Topsy.com Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:13:13 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=21562#comment-441181 [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Lloyd Y. Asato and Alonso R Arellano, sheldon. sheldon said: Overcoming Bias : Food Not Med: “To those in close contact with the dead, such as rescue workers, there is a healt... http://bit.ly/6omG5y [...] [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Lloyd Y. Asato and Alonso R Arellano, sheldon. sheldon said: Overcoming Bias : Food Not Med: “To those in close contact with the dead, such as rescue workers, there is a healt… http://bit.ly/6omG5y [...]

]]> By: John Sabotta http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/01/food-not-med.html#comment-441166 John Sabotta Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:54:34 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=21562#comment-441166 Overcoming Bias is nothing less than concentrated cadaverine, applied by injection via HIV-contaminated needle. Overcoming Bias is nothing less than concentrated cadaverine, applied by injection via HIV-contaminated needle.

]]> By: Recomendaciones « intelib http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/01/food-not-med.html#comment-441104 Recomendaciones « intelib Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:09:07 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=21562#comment-441104 [...] Food Not Med, by Robin Hanson [...] [...] Food Not Med, by Robin Hanson [...]

]]> By: Bill http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/01/food-not-med.html#comment-441089 Bill Sat, 23 Jan 2010 03:02:16 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=21562#comment-441089 Here is a better link on the subject with better balance and some interesting analysis: http://www.psandman.com/col/tsunami2.htm Here is a better link on the subject with better balance and some interesting analysis: http://www.psandman.com/col/tsunami2.htm

]]> By: Bill http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/01/food-not-med.html#comment-441088 Bill Sat, 23 Jan 2010 02:55:01 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=21562#comment-441088 I checked some other materials and how this is presented is closer to the original post than to my first comment, although the original post, I think, unduly minimized risk. I Apologize. I checked some other materials and how this is presented is closer to the original post than to my first comment, although the original post, I think, unduly minimized risk. I Apologize.

]]> By: Bill http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/01/food-not-med.html#comment-441086 Bill Sat, 23 Jan 2010 02:37:41 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=21562#comment-441086 According to Wiki, the following should be added re dead bodies you may have lying around your house: "To those in close contact with the dead, such as rescue workers, there is a health risk from chronic infectious diseases which spread by direct contact, for example: hepatitis B, hepatitis C, HIV, enteric (intestinal) pathogens and tuberculosis. The substances cadaverine and putrescine are produced during the decomposition of animal bodies, and both give off a foul odor.[3] They are toxic if massive doses are ingested (2g per kg of body weight in rats for putrescine, a larger dose for cadaverine)[4], causing adverse effects. If these figures are assumed to apply to humans, a 60 kg (132lb) person would be significantly affected by 120g (4oz) of pure putrescine, and would show no effects at all for a tenth of that dose. By way of comparison the similar substance spermine, found in semen, is over 3 times as toxic." Do you ever do any research for this site, or do you just put it out there for everyone to consume? According to Wiki, the following should be added re dead bodies you may have lying around your house:

“To those in close contact with the dead, such as rescue workers, there is a health risk from chronic infectious diseases which spread by direct contact, for example: hepatitis B, hepatitis C, HIV, enteric (intestinal) pathogens and tuberculosis.

The substances cadaverine and putrescine are produced during the decomposition of animal bodies, and both give off a foul odor.[3] They are toxic if massive doses are ingested (2g per kg of body weight in rats for putrescine, a larger dose for cadaverine)[4], causing adverse effects. If these figures are assumed to apply to humans, a 60 kg (132lb) person would be significantly affected by 120g (4oz) of pure putrescine, and would show no effects at all for a tenth of that dose. By way of comparison the similar substance spermine, found in semen, is over 3 times as toxic.”

Do you ever do any research for this site, or do you just put it out there for everyone to consume?

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