Comments on: Student Idealism http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/12/kids-want-idealist-teachers.html Overcoming Bias is economist Robin Hanson’s blog, on honesty, signaling, disagreement, forecasting, and the far future. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:20:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Joe http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/12/kids-want-idealist-teachers.html#comment-438215 Joe Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:59:16 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20824#comment-438215 I like that Robin didn't even consider the most obvious explanation for his students' comments: that his analysis<em> was</em> asinine and full of needless sexual innuendo. I like that Robin didn’t even consider the most obvious explanation for his students’ comments: that his analysis was asinine and full of needless sexual innuendo.

]]> By: wedrifid http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/12/kids-want-idealist-teachers.html#comment-438210 wedrifid Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:33:28 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20824#comment-438210 It seems more likely that they are learning to be averse to the teacher by associating the distaste of the topic to the lecturer. It seems more likely that they are learning to be averse to the teacher by associating the distaste of the topic to the lecturer.

]]> By: Violet http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/12/kids-want-idealist-teachers.html#comment-438206 Violet Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:41:48 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20824#comment-438206 You think it is hilarous that students feel bad in a course? It is most probably an issue with the teaching style being unsuitable and them learning to be averse to the subject matter by associating the distaste of the lecturer to the topic. You think it is hilarous that students feel bad in a course?

It is most probably an issue with the teaching style being unsuitable and them learning to be averse to the subject matter by associating the distaste of the lecturer to the topic.

]]> By: Violet http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/12/kids-want-idealist-teachers.html#comment-438205 Violet Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:39:20 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20824#comment-438205 One thing that might confuse people in the selfish thing is: "selfish" == "optimizes own utility function" vs "selfish" == "the term for other people is small in the utility function" Much of the disagreement whether people are selfish stems from the two very different definitions. One thing that might confuse people in the selfish thing is:
“selfish” == “optimizes own utility function”
vs
“selfish” == “the term for other people is small in the utility function”

Much of the disagreement whether people are selfish stems from the two very different definitions.

]]> By: Jonathan Graehl http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/12/kids-want-idealist-teachers.html#comment-438203 Jonathan Graehl Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:11:16 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20824#comment-438203 "Too many sexual innuendos", "felt uncomfortable" etc. - hilarious. Pampered worldview under fire and raising the emotional barricades, one supposes. Probably also ignorance of the actual meaning of "innuendo" is at work as well. “Too many sexual innuendos”, “felt uncomfortable” etc. – hilarious. Pampered worldview under fire and raising the emotional barricades, one supposes. Probably also ignorance of the actual meaning of “innuendo” is at work as well.

]]> By: anon http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/12/kids-want-idealist-teachers.html#comment-438191 anon Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:42:51 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20824#comment-438191 I knew all along that Nietzsche was totally gay, but it turns out he was man enough to admit it in the very title of his book! Cool guy. I knew all along that Nietzsche was totally gay, but it turns out he was man enough to admit it in the very title of his book! Cool guy.

]]> By: Mariano Chouza http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/12/kids-want-idealist-teachers.html#comment-438180 Mariano Chouza Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:00:33 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20824#comment-438180 This is <a href="http://books.google.com.ar/books?id=Vf8KETLiKXMC&lpg=PA45&ots=7oUyd6wOzQ&dq=%22praises%20selflessness%22&hl=en&pg=PA45#v=onepage&q=%22praises%20selflessness%22&f=false" rel="nofollow">the real Nietzsche quote</a>. This is the real Nietzsche quote.

]]> By: jay http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/12/kids-want-idealist-teachers.html#comment-438176 jay Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:45:18 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20824#comment-438176 You make a lot of sense in these comments. You should start a blog. You make a lot of sense in these comments. You should start a blog.

]]> By: Y http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/12/kids-want-idealist-teachers.html#comment-438173 Y Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:27:31 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20824#comment-438173 I think this is more complicated than it seems. Once again, all I am providing is anecdotal evidence. I have been living in US since 1992, but I did visit Russia on occasion over the period of last 10 years. I see two trends. On the one hand, most Russians believe that Americans are stupid for believing the US 'propaganda. On the other hand, the majority of Russians clearly believe the Putin propaganda, part of which, ironically, is that Americans are idiots. Go figure. I think this is more complicated than it seems. Once again, all I am providing is anecdotal evidence. I have been living in US since 1992, but I did visit Russia on occasion over the period of last 10 years. I see two trends. On the one hand, most Russians believe that Americans are stupid for believing the US ‘propaganda. On the other hand, the majority of Russians clearly believe the Putin propaganda, part of which, ironically, is that Americans are idiots. Go figure.

]]> By: mikem http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/12/kids-want-idealist-teachers.html#comment-438169 mikem Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:14:53 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20824#comment-438169 Where is this Nietzsche quote from? Not that the sentiment is out of place for him, but I find it odd to hear a nineteenth century philosopher using the term 'sucker,' which is more post-freudian vernacular (though Nietzsche was a big influence on Freud). Where is this Nietzsche quote from? Not that the sentiment is out of place for him, but I find it odd to hear a nineteenth century philosopher using the term ‘sucker,’ which is more post-freudian vernacular (though Nietzsche was a big influence on Freud).

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