Comments on: What Status RQ? http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/what-status-rq.html Overcoming Bias is economist Robin Hanson’s blog, on honesty, signaling, disagreement, forecasting, and the far future. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:22:50 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Jackson http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/what-status-rq.html#comment-436054 Jackson Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:41:27 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20361#comment-436054 Which may not be anywhere near as much as their salary would suggest. Which may not be anywhere near as much as their salary would suggest.

]]> By: Jackson http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/what-status-rq.html#comment-436053 Jackson Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:36:36 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20361#comment-436053 Feministx: had a look at your blog, rather interesting - I see gender issues are as charged as ever, the dedication... my word. I was going to reply there, but there was some hoop/hurdle thing that I can't be ***** with. "The IQ test doesn't measure curiosity, attachment to ideas, general world view, attitude towards information learned." Can we suppose that it indirectly measures, or gauges, these things, or assumes willingness to conform? No brainer? Eric said ...and rely on limited sources of information, often specialized and thus limited (missing out on the benefits of a wide-ranging big picture). the benefits, and the torment. Feministx: had a look at your blog, rather interesting – I see gender issues are as charged as ever, the dedication… my word. I was going to reply there, but there was some hoop/hurdle thing that I can’t be ***** with.

“The IQ test doesn’t measure curiosity, attachment to ideas, general world view, attitude towards information learned.”

Can we suppose that it indirectly measures, or gauges, these things, or assumes willingness to conform? No brainer?

Eric said
…and rely on limited sources of information, often specialized and thus limited (missing out on the benefits of a wide-ranging big picture).

the benefits, and the torment.

]]> By: Phil Goetz http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/what-status-rq.html#comment-436036 Phil Goetz Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:45:51 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20361#comment-436036 Since someone taking a test is (probably) motivated to score well, I don't see how calling something an "RQ" test is supposed to overcome the problem of people just not trying in everyday life. What's the difference between an RQ test, and an IQ test done right? I'd like to construct a test that measured consistency and the ability to generalize. It would consist of pairs of questions - shuffled, so that the pairing wouldn't be obvious. Each question in a pair would involving applying the same insight. You would lose more points for answering one question in a pair correctly and the other incorrectly, than for answering both incorrectly. This design would also control well for cultural bias in the test. Since someone taking a test is (probably) motivated to score well, I don’t see how calling something an “RQ” test is supposed to overcome the problem of people just not trying in everyday life.

What’s the difference between an RQ test, and an IQ test done right?

I’d like to construct a test that measured consistency and the ability to generalize. It would consist of pairs of questions – shuffled, so that the pairing wouldn’t be obvious. Each question in a pair would involving applying the same insight. You would lose more points for answering one question in a pair correctly and the other incorrectly, than for answering both incorrectly. This design would also control well for cultural bias in the test.

]]> By: Phil Goetz http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/what-status-rq.html#comment-436035 Phil Goetz Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:39:19 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20361#comment-436035 ? ?

]]> By: Michael Keenan http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/what-status-rq.html#comment-436000 Michael Keenan Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:30:56 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20361#comment-436000 I meant mates as in "people seeking relationships". But you refer to the Civil Rights Acts which have hindered businesses using IQ tests in recruitment. The <a>Wikipedia article on Intelligence and public policy</a> notes that companies can still use IQ tests if they use racial hiring quotas to ensure that there won't be a disparate impact. It would still be useful to use an IQ test (or RQ test) to sort applicants within their racial group. I meant mates as in “people seeking relationships”. But you refer to the Civil Rights Acts which have hindered businesses using IQ tests in recruitment. The Wikipedia article on Intelligence and public policy notes that companies can still use IQ tests if they use racial hiring quotas to ensure that there won’t be a disparate impact. It would still be useful to use an IQ test (or RQ test) to sort applicants within their racial group.

]]> By: Michael Keenan http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/what-status-rq.html#comment-435999 Michael Keenan Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:11:52 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20361#comment-435999 > Several million dollars spent trying to develop an RQ test seems money well spent to me. If anyone wants to organize this, I'll contribute $100. > Several million dollars spent trying to develop an RQ test seems money well spent to me.

If anyone wants to organize this, I’ll contribute $100.

]]> By: nazgulnarsil http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/what-status-rq.html#comment-435989 nazgulnarsil Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:19:10 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20361#comment-435989 except that it is illegal for insurance companies to actually give rational rates, since they would be racist, sexist, *insert anti-egalitarian concept here* etc. except that it is illegal for insurance companies to actually give rational rates, since they would be racist, sexist, *insert anti-egalitarian concept here* etc.

]]> By: nazgulnarsil http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/what-status-rq.html#comment-435988 nazgulnarsil Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:14:37 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20361#comment-435988 the drake equation is rational only if you're innumerate WRT to how probabilities work. the drake equation is rational only if you’re innumerate WRT to how probabilities work.

]]> By: Michael Keenan http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/what-status-rq.html#comment-435986 Michael Keenan Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:40:43 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20361#comment-435986 Thanks! Thanks!

]]> By: Jimmy http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/what-status-rq.html#comment-435931 Jimmy Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:30:28 +0000 http://www.overcomingbias.com/?p=20361#comment-435931 Typing the title into google gives it in the first hit :) http://sds.hss.cmu.edu/media/pdfs/fischhoff/ADMC-JPSP2007.pdf Typing the title into google gives it in the first hit :)
http://sds.hss.cmu.edu/media/pdfs/fischhoff/ADMC-JPSP2007.pdf

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