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		<title>By: Speed Blogging &#124; Conservation Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/praise-results.html#comment-438214</link>
		<dc:creator>Speed Blogging &#124; Conservation Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] world would be better if we praised folks more for what they did than who they are.&#8221; Hear [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Robin Hanson</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/praise-results.html#comment-436922</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Hanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We value results over character?</description>
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		<title>By: Katja Grace</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/praise-results.html#comment-436913</link>
		<dc:creator>Katja Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we praised results instead of character, sure we would get better results, but what would it say about our characters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we praised results instead of character, sure we would get better results, but what would it say about our characters?</p>
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		<title>By: reads for 2009-11-23 &#124; Strings of Curiosity</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/praise-results.html#comment-436378</link>
		<dc:creator>reads for 2009-11-23 &#124; Strings of Curiosity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Praise Results [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TGGP</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/praise-results.html#comment-436363</link>
		<dc:creator>TGGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bryan Caplan pushes back on that line of thought &lt;a href=&quot;http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2009/06/the_not-so_fund.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan Caplan pushes back on that line of thought <a href="http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2009/06/the_not-so_fund.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Dain</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/praise-results.html#comment-436360</link>
		<dc:creator>Dain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you mean the folk psychological notions of character attributed to people in suits, labcoats, etc.? That they wouldn&#039;t be responsible for pain and injury, etc.?

I think for what people are trying to measure about one&#039;s character in cases involving authority is whether that person will become easily emotionally enraged, hysterical or steal from your wallet. And it&#039;s true, they &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; less likely to do that. Whether they commit violence and thievery via degrees of seperation involving underlings is another question, but not the question folk psychological assumptions of authority (&quot;experts&quot;) are trying to ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you mean the folk psychological notions of character attributed to people in suits, labcoats, etc.? That they wouldn&#8217;t be responsible for pain and injury, etc.?</p>
<p>I think for what people are trying to measure about one&#8217;s character in cases involving authority is whether that person will become easily emotionally enraged, hysterical or steal from your wallet. And it&#8217;s true, they <em>are</em> less likely to do that. Whether they commit violence and thievery via degrees of seperation involving underlings is another question, but not the question folk psychological assumptions of authority (&#8220;experts&#8221;) are trying to ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Johnston</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/praise-results.html#comment-436288</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a teacher, and I wanted to make this comment but you beat me to it.  I told a kid yesterday, &quot;you&#039;re the greatest.&quot;  The result of this experiment was a blank stare.

If the goal is to encourage specific behavior, give specific feedback.

However, in eulogies, etc. the behavior being encouraged is usually not something the audience can replicate.  Praising a doctor for the methodology of his surgery and the outcomes that he produced in his patients&#039; elbows won&#039;t apply to most of the audience.  If we start from the assumption that there is such a thing as character, like people have been telling us all along, then this is something that can apply to the whole audience, though it may well be hard to measure.

By praising real results in such a setting, one signals that real results are important by spending scarce eulogizing time on talking about real results.

If the person is alive and the act is repeatable it is a different story though.  The student I encouraged to do addition and subtraction his own way not only appreciated the signal that he was intelligent, but was able to successfully complete more similar problems in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a teacher, and I wanted to make this comment but you beat me to it.  I told a kid yesterday, &#8220;you&#8217;re the greatest.&#8221;  The result of this experiment was a blank stare.</p>
<p>If the goal is to encourage specific behavior, give specific feedback.</p>
<p>However, in eulogies, etc. the behavior being encouraged is usually not something the audience can replicate.  Praising a doctor for the methodology of his surgery and the outcomes that he produced in his patients&#8217; elbows won&#8217;t apply to most of the audience.  If we start from the assumption that there is such a thing as character, like people have been telling us all along, then this is something that can apply to the whole audience, though it may well be hard to measure.</p>
<p>By praising real results in such a setting, one signals that real results are important by spending scarce eulogizing time on talking about real results.</p>
<p>If the person is alive and the act is repeatable it is a different story though.  The student I encouraged to do addition and subtraction his own way not only appreciated the signal that he was intelligent, but was able to successfully complete more similar problems in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Booklegger</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/praise-results.html#comment-436279</link>
		<dc:creator>Booklegger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The world would be better if we praised folks more for what they did than who they are.&lt;/em&gt;

Sounds like a quote from my McDonald&#039;s training manual. Their term of art is to give behavior feedback, not personality feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The world would be better if we praised folks more for what they did than who they are.</em></p>
<p>Sounds like a quote from my McDonald&#8217;s training manual. Their term of art is to give behavior feedback, not personality feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Hopefully Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/praise-results.html#comment-436275</link>
		<dc:creator>Hopefully Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You both seem to me to be overcertain of your positions on this superphilosophical topic.

On this topic I haven&#039;t encountered better than Professor Koch&#039;s (of Caltech) approach to what you are in his description of consciousness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You both seem to me to be overcertain of your positions on this superphilosophical topic.</p>
<p>On this topic I haven&#8217;t encountered better than Professor Koch&#8217;s (of Caltech) approach to what you are in his description of consciousness.</p>
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		<title>By: Hopefully Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/11/praise-results.html#comment-436274</link>
		<dc:creator>Hopefully Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No one gets praised for his DNA setup&quot;.
Well people do. But perhaps it&#039;s bad form in our cohort, a bit of a reaction to the nepoticrats we technocrats compete with for resource control. Still, people, including the technocratically inclined, get praised for the DNA of the mates they attract. So I think the praise is considered acceptable if it&#039;s one order removed from the recipient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No one gets praised for his DNA setup&#8221;.<br />
Well people do. But perhaps it&#8217;s bad form in our cohort, a bit of a reaction to the nepoticrats we technocrats compete with for resource control. Still, people, including the technocratically inclined, get praised for the DNA of the mates they attract. So I think the praise is considered acceptable if it&#8217;s one order removed from the recipient.</p>
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