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		<title>By: Stuart Buck</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/10/true-violence.html#comment-434298</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Buck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a video of a real street fight.  If you blink, you&#039;ll almost miss it (around 1:15 or so).  http://conditioningresearch.blogspot.com/2009/10/dont-pick-onthe-wrong-guys.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a video of a real street fight.  If you blink, you&#8217;ll almost miss it (around 1:15 or so).  <a href="http://conditioningresearch.blogspot.com/2009/10/dont-pick-onthe-wrong-guys.html" rel="nofollow">http://conditioningresearch.blogspot.com/2009/10/dont-pick-onthe-wrong-guys.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Floccina</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/10/true-violence.html#comment-434266</link>
		<dc:creator>Floccina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before antibiotics a small cut could kill a person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before antibiotics a small cut could kill a person.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/10/true-violence.html#comment-434250</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the interesting effects of this is that &lt;a href=&quot;http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealityIsUnrealistic&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Reality is Unrealistic&lt;/a&gt;.

There&#039;s a ton of stuff about this. See also &lt;a href=&quot;http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OnlyAFleshWound&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Only A Flesh Wound&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InstantDeathBullet&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Instant Death Bullet&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlownAcrossTheRoom&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blown Across the Room&lt;/a&gt;, among others.

All of these are mostly part and parcel of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Willing Suspension of Disbelief&lt;/a&gt;, with a particular focus on the  &lt;a href=&#039;http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfCool&#039; title=&#039;http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfCool&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rule Of Cool&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&#039;http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfDrama&#039; title=&#039;http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfDrama&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rule Of Drama&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&#039;http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfFunny&#039; title=&#039;http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfFunny&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rule Of Funny&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&#039;http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfScary&#039; title=&#039;http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfScary&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rule Of Scary&lt;/a&gt;, as goes violence in stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the interesting effects of this is that <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealityIsUnrealistic" rel="nofollow">Reality is Unrealistic</a>.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a ton of stuff about this. See also <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OnlyAFleshWound" rel="nofollow">Only A Flesh Wound</a>, <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InstantDeathBullet" rel="nofollow">Instant Death Bullet</a>, and <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlownAcrossTheRoom" rel="nofollow">Blown Across the Room</a>, among others.</p>
<p>All of these are mostly part and parcel of the <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief" rel="nofollow">Willing Suspension of Disbelief</a>, with a particular focus on the  <a href='http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfCool' title='http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfCool' rel="nofollow">Rule Of Cool</a>, <a href='http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfDrama' title='http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfDrama' rel="nofollow">Rule Of Drama</a>, <a href='http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfFunny' title='http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfFunny' rel="nofollow">Rule Of Funny</a>, and <a href='http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfScary' title='http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfScary' rel="nofollow">Rule Of Scary</a>, as goes violence in stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/10/true-violence.html#comment-434245</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a long tail of resistance to physical damage, and ability to dish it out.  If you&#039;re not experienced at throwing punches, and your target is experienced at taking them, you&#039;re not even going to slow him down.  

Of course, given the accuracy of this post&#039;s subject, you&#039;re unlikely to ever have the chance at a throat punch if you&#039;re in real danger; it&#039;ll be a knife from behind or an overwhelmingly intense onslaught from a few experienced people.  If you do have a chance to do anything, remember you&#039;re likelier to be able to match an experienced attacker&#039;s sprinting ability than his fighting ability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a long tail of resistance to physical damage, and ability to dish it out.  If you&#8217;re not experienced at throwing punches, and your target is experienced at taking them, you&#8217;re not even going to slow him down.  </p>
<p>Of course, given the accuracy of this post&#8217;s subject, you&#8217;re unlikely to ever have the chance at a throat punch if you&#8217;re in real danger; it&#8217;ll be a knife from behind or an overwhelmingly intense onslaught from a few experienced people.  If you do have a chance to do anything, remember you&#8217;re likelier to be able to match an experienced attacker&#8217;s sprinting ability than his fighting ability.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/10/true-violence.html#comment-434194</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 08:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try Rashomon? A bandit gives an account of a sword fight that he won. A peasant who secretly witnessed the fight paints a very different picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try Rashomon? A bandit gives an account of a sword fight that he won. A peasant who secretly witnessed the fight paints a very different picture.</p>
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		<title>By: TGGP</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/10/true-violence.html#comment-434191</link>
		<dc:creator>TGGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 04:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been interested in Collins&#039; book every since Tyler mentioned it, but it was always so expensive. I just checked it out on Borders&#039; site though, and apparently its now in paperback for much cheaper.

There was a collection of movie scenes called &quot;Ultimate Fights&quot;, one of which was from &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSA6sK6nq44&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Crossing the Line&lt;/a&gt;&quot;. That one seemed to aim for an unusual degree of realism in that the fighters get really worn out a while before the fight ends. They only go on because, in accordance to what Collins said about such organized bouts, there is a surrounding fight infrastructure which compels them to continue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been interested in Collins&#8217; book every since Tyler mentioned it, but it was always so expensive. I just checked it out on Borders&#8217; site though, and apparently its now in paperback for much cheaper.</p>
<p>There was a collection of movie scenes called &#8220;Ultimate Fights&#8221;, one of which was from &#8220;<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSA6sK6nq44" rel="nofollow">Crossing the Line</a>&#8220;. That one seemed to aim for an unusual degree of realism in that the fighters get really worn out a while before the fight ends. They only go on because, in accordance to what Collins said about such organized bouts, there is a surrounding fight infrastructure which compels them to continue.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Kenny</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/10/true-violence.html#comment-434174</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 22:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Will a group of male chimps ever carry off or take possession of the females of a group of males they have vanquished?&lt;/em&gt;

According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=lyGVLSndLqMC&amp;pg=PA31&amp;lpg=PA31&amp;dq=male+chimps+rape&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=KmRVhuWcu6&amp;sig=22v4EEe92vceN8GnoaWH5hED0NY&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=EsvHSviSL4bi8AbK7YTiCA&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=2#v=onepage&amp;q=male%20chimps%20rape&amp;f=false&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this book&lt;/a&gt; chimps do try to kill all the males of a rival group and bring the females into their group (p31 at the bottom).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Will a group of male chimps ever carry off or take possession of the females of a group of males they have vanquished?</em></p>
<p>According to <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=lyGVLSndLqMC&amp;pg=PA31&amp;lpg=PA31&amp;dq=male+chimps+rape&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=KmRVhuWcu6&amp;sig=22v4EEe92vceN8GnoaWH5hED0NY&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=EsvHSviSL4bi8AbK7YTiCA&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=2#v=onepage&amp;q=male%20chimps%20rape&amp;f=false" rel="nofollow">this book</a> chimps do try to kill all the males of a rival group and bring the females into their group (p31 at the bottom).</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 21:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unforgiven was pretty accurate.  And commented on the unrealism of literary depictions.  Also: the Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unforgiven was pretty accurate.  And commented on the unrealism of literary depictions.  Also: the Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/10/true-violence.html#comment-434153</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speeding bullet releases energy and forms temporary cavity. Instant unconsciousness occurs. Intracranial bleeding,and edema  quickly raises intracranial pressure, causing respiratory arrest. Some brain gunshot wounds are survivable,especially if small low energy bullet used. If  delayed brain death supervenes it is principally due to  due to intracranial pressure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speeding bullet releases energy and forms temporary cavity. Instant unconsciousness occurs. Intracranial bleeding,and edema  quickly raises intracranial pressure, causing respiratory arrest. Some brain gunshot wounds are survivable,especially if small low energy bullet used. If  delayed brain death supervenes it is principally due to  due to intracranial pressure.</p>
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		<title>By: Torben</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/10/true-violence.html#comment-434152</link>
		<dc:creator>Torben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But it would seem like most shots through the cortex (which seem to be the majority in movies) would knock you unconscious, but then simply leave you with lots of brain damage. (I believe this is born out in attempted suicide statistics.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
20% of the blood circulation is through the brain.  A liter a minute.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Also, how much trauma is caused by the bullet’s shockwave tearing up brain tissue, and how much by the simple puncturing of the bullet?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Consider ejection of brain tissue if the bullet penetrates the skull out.  If it doesn&#039;t exit, it ricochets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But it would seem like most shots through the cortex (which seem to be the majority in movies) would knock you unconscious, but then simply leave you with lots of brain damage. (I believe this is born out in attempted suicide statistics.)</p></blockquote>
<p>20% of the blood circulation is through the brain.  A liter a minute.</p>
<blockquote><p>Also, how much trauma is caused by the bullet’s shockwave tearing up brain tissue, and how much by the simple puncturing of the bullet?</p></blockquote>
<p>Consider ejection of brain tissue if the bullet penetrates the skull out.  If it doesn&#8217;t exit, it ricochets.</p>
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