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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s Dreaming</title>
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		<title>By: Phil Goetz</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/09/obamas-dreaming.html#comment-433046</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Goetz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anytime a politician talks about &quot;eliminating waste&quot;, you should immediately dismiss him/her.  Waste is inherent in the democratic process.  AFAIK nobody has ever been successful in all of American history at making big savings by eliminating waste.

When Obama says he&#039;s simultaneously going to lower costs and increase coverage, that&#039;s even more of a fantasy.  That just tells us he&#039;s either ignorant, or not telling us what he really wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anytime a politician talks about &#8220;eliminating waste&#8221;, you should immediately dismiss him/her.  Waste is inherent in the democratic process.  AFAIK nobody has ever been successful in all of American history at making big savings by eliminating waste.</p>
<p>When Obama says he&#8217;s simultaneously going to lower costs and increase coverage, that&#8217;s even more of a fantasy.  That just tells us he&#8217;s either ignorant, or not telling us what he really wants.</p>
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		<title>By: Overcoming Bias : Walmart Med Is Better</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/09/obamas-dreaming.html#comment-433038</link>
		<dc:creator>Overcoming Bias : Walmart Med Is Better</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 15:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has expressed his extreme eagerness to cut med waste, and 30% savings could sure pay for a lot of universal [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ducktator</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/09/obamas-dreaming.html#comment-432601</link>
		<dc:creator>ducktator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the admin does not try first to eliminate waste and fraud from Medicare/Medicaid and then have Medicaid offered (with fee) to all people that can not afford private care? Is this possible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the admin does not try first to eliminate waste and fraud from Medicare/Medicaid and then have Medicaid offered (with fee) to all people that can not afford private care? Is this possible?</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Hanson: &#34;So they will cut vast waste without ever telling anyone they can’t get a treatment they want? Fantasy.&#34; &#171; Economics Info</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/09/obamas-dreaming.html#comment-432598</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Hanson: &#34;So they will cut vast waste without ever telling anyone they can’t get a treatment they want? Fantasy.&#34; &#171; Economics Info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 08:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Perfect Healthcare Plan (And Why It Can Never Happen) &#171; Intellectual Detox</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/09/obamas-dreaming.html#comment-432592</link>
		<dc:creator>The Perfect Healthcare Plan (And Why It Can Never Happen) &#171; Intellectual Detox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] eat up a huge percentage of spending.   The Medicare oversight commission the plan would create is completely toothless: &#8220;The Commission will not be authorized to propose or implement Medicare changes that ration [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] eat up a huge percentage of spending.   The Medicare oversight commission the plan would create is completely toothless: &#8220;The Commission will not be authorized to propose or implement Medicare changes that ration [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Floccina</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/09/obamas-dreaming.html#comment-432588</link>
		<dc:creator>Floccina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Early in the speech he said these are the facts nobody disputes them.  I dispute some of them and I know many people that dispute some of the things head had said.  Oh well he is a politician.  He seems not worse than most politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Early in the speech he said these are the facts nobody disputes them.  I dispute some of them and I know many people that dispute some of the things head had said.  Oh well he is a politician.  He seems not worse than most politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: pdf23ds</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/09/obamas-dreaming.html#comment-432587</link>
		<dc:creator>pdf23ds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. I think this is more of a &quot;little white lie&quot; than anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. I think this is more of a &#8220;little white lie&#8221; than anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny Evitt</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/09/obamas-dreaming.html#comment-432585</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny Evitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While watching the speech, I kept hearing Robin in my head saying &quot;put a tax on medical care!&quot; – but then Obama would say something that would make me think that there is &lt;em&gt;too little&lt;/em&gt; care. What&#039;s our problem again? We&#039;re paying too much, a lot of it for care we don&#039;t need, but ... we also need to spend more to ensure even more people have access to largely useless care? [My friend made me leave the room when I started arguing with the TV ...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While watching the speech, I kept hearing Robin in my head saying &#8220;put a tax on medical care!&#8221; – but then Obama would say something that would make me think that there is <em>too little</em> care. What&#8217;s our problem again? We&#8217;re paying too much, a lot of it for care we don&#8217;t need, but &#8230; we also need to spend more to ensure even more people have access to largely useless care? [My friend made me leave the room when I started arguing with the TV ...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blogobuzz: Obama&#8217;s Healthcare speech &#8211; false symmetry</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/09/obamas-dreaming.html#comment-432584</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogobuzz: Obama&#8217;s Healthcare speech &#8211; false symmetry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to Obama&#8217;s speech. Honestly, I didn&#8217;t pay much attention to it, but I did appreciate Robin Hanson&#8217;s comments last night. So he’s going to save $500+ billion over ten years by having an independent [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to Obama&#8217;s speech. Honestly, I didn&#8217;t pay much attention to it, but I did appreciate Robin Hanson&#8217;s comments last night. So he’s going to save $500+ billion over ten years by having an independent [...]</p>
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		<title>By: OregonGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/09/obamas-dreaming.html#comment-432582</link>
		<dc:creator>OregonGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just hope the commission has really cool uniforms and black helicopters. Imagine clinic and hospital adminstrators hiding under their desks when the &#039;choppers arrive.

It&#039;s hard to take any of this &quot;debate&quot; seriously, when the arguments are seriously flawed to begin with. Can anyone, with a straight face, claim that somehow innovation in drugs and therapies will result in a lessening demand for better treatment? Me? I&#039;m glad that the government didn&#039;t get involved in &quot;cost control&quot; of computers, back when 386 PC&#039;s were selling for 29-hundred dollars. Imagine the world we would live in today if we controlled IT sector spending to 1979 levels. 

The whole debate is a straw man.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just hope the commission has really cool uniforms and black helicopters. Imagine clinic and hospital adminstrators hiding under their desks when the &#8216;choppers arrive.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to take any of this &#8220;debate&#8221; seriously, when the arguments are seriously flawed to begin with. Can anyone, with a straight face, claim that somehow innovation in drugs and therapies will result in a lessening demand for better treatment? Me? I&#8217;m glad that the government didn&#8217;t get involved in &#8220;cost control&#8221; of computers, back when 386 PC&#8217;s were selling for 29-hundred dollars. Imagine the world we would live in today if we controlled IT sector spending to 1979 levels. </p>
<p>The whole debate is a straw man.<br />
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