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		<title>By: Singularity FAQ: General Questions &#124; the rational futurist</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/08/singularity-pr-dupes.html#comment-682297</link>
		<dc:creator>Singularity FAQ: General Questions &#124; the rational futurist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wide range of beliefs on all subjects. To see a summary of some of these beliefs, check out the comments on this article by SIAI research fellows Eliezer Yudkowsky and Anna [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Patri Friedman</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/08/singularity-pr-dupes.html#comment-432724</link>
		<dc:creator>Patri Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 04:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Phil says, I&#039;m surprised you aren&#039;t applauding them for their deft use of signaling in getting high-status affiliates.  Obviously one goal for the Summit is to be an interesting dialog, but another is to increase the status of this area of research, and direct more funding an attention to it.

I can see why you might feel their claim about being a &quot;leading dialog&quot; was slightly dishonest and be piqued by that, but do keep in mind that their strategy of increasing the status of futurism helps your career and research interests.  They are contributing to an unusual public good that benefits you - shouldn&#039;t you mix some appreciation in with your criticism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Phil says, I&#8217;m surprised you aren&#8217;t applauding them for their deft use of signaling in getting high-status affiliates.  Obviously one goal for the Summit is to be an interesting dialog, but another is to increase the status of this area of research, and direct more funding an attention to it.</p>
<p>I can see why you might feel their claim about being a &#8220;leading dialog&#8221; was slightly dishonest and be piqued by that, but do keep in mind that their strategy of increasing the status of futurism helps your career and research interests.  They are contributing to an unusual public good that benefits you &#8211; shouldn&#8217;t you mix some appreciation in with your criticism?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Tyler</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/08/singularity-pr-dupes.html#comment-432244</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;Should SIAI rebrand itself as IEIAI and the Singularity Summit as the Intelligence Explosion Expo?&quot;

Better not to have gotten into the whole mess in the first place - but essentially, yes: perpetuating the dopey &quot;Singularity&quot; terminology is a bad thing to be doing - and I think that all those involved should cease at the earliest opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;Should SIAI rebrand itself as IEIAI and the Singularity Summit as the Intelligence Explosion Expo?&#8221;</p>
<p>Better not to have gotten into the whole mess in the first place &#8211; but essentially, yes: perpetuating the dopey &#8220;Singularity&#8221; terminology is a bad thing to be doing &#8211; and I think that all those involved should cease at the earliest opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Tyler</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/08/singularity-pr-dupes.html#comment-432221</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proponents typically claim SUPER-exponential growth.</description>
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		<title>By: Tim Tyler</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/08/singularity-pr-dupes.html#comment-432215</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: overall neither econ nor tech progress is much accelerating lately.

I don&#039;t really see how anyone can argue that the things Kurzweil actually claims are accelerating are not actually accelerating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: overall neither econ nor tech progress is much accelerating lately.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really see how anyone can argue that the things Kurzweil actually claims are accelerating are not actually accelerating.</p>
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		<title>By: Singularity PR Dupes? &#187; Dig for Leadership - Stories that try to make the world a better place.</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/08/singularity-pr-dupes.html#comment-432036</link>
		<dc:creator>Singularity PR Dupes? &#187; Dig for Leadership - Stories that try to make the world a better place.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] associated with many claims, but most are controversial. They &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&#8230; carry on reading. AKPC_IDS += &quot;957,&quot;;  (No Ratings Yet) &#160;Loading ...     Posted in Leadership &#124; Tagged [...]</description>
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		<title>By: gwern</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/08/singularity-pr-dupes.html#comment-432009</link>
		<dc:creator>gwern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I can&#039;t seem to reply to Bloomfield, so I&#039;ll just leave this post here.)

Robert: trying to correct terminology can be easily counterproductive. Look at Richard Stallman; how many people discount him as a crank solely because of his efforts to get people to make a legitimate distinction like Linux vs. GNU/Linux (or &#039;intellectual property&#039; or...)? Quite a few. And his attempts have helped him or the FLOSS movement not in the slightest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I can&#8217;t seem to reply to Bloomfield, so I&#8217;ll just leave this post here.)</p>
<p>Robert: trying to correct terminology can be easily counterproductive. Look at Richard Stallman; how many people discount him as a crank solely because of his efforts to get people to make a legitimate distinction like Linux vs. GNU/Linux (or &#8216;intellectual property&#8217; or&#8230;)? Quite a few. And his attempts have helped him or the FLOSS movement not in the slightest.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahner</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/08/singularity-pr-dupes.html#comment-431931</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bahner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t think we could ask it “solve quantum gravity” or “create a being more intelligent than yourself” and expect much.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And how much can you expect if you asked humans to do the same thing? Humans have had 200,000+ years to do those things. So far, nada. I&#039;m not impressed. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t think we could ask it “solve quantum gravity” or “create a being more intelligent than yourself” and expect much.</p></blockquote>
<p>And how much can you expect if you asked humans to do the same thing? Humans have had 200,000+ years to do those things. So far, nada. I&#8217;m not impressed. <img src='http://www.overcomingbias.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ba feed &#187; Seasteading and Singularity, by Arnold Kling</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/08/singularity-pr-dupes.html#comment-431907</link>
		<dc:creator>ba feed &#187; Seasteading and Singularity, by Arnold Kling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in San Francisco. The Singularity Summit is October 3-4, in New York. I won&#039;t be at either, but Robin Hanson appears to be on the bill for the singularity [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in San Francisco. The Singularity Summit is October 3-4, in New York. I won&#8217;t be at either, but Robin Hanson appears to be on the bill for the singularity [...]</p>
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		<title>By: michael vassar</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/08/singularity-pr-dupes.html#comment-431900</link>
		<dc:creator>michael vassar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fine Robin, answers?  Dialog is a common buzzword but I think that to an unusual degree we actually mean its content, though more regarding the workshop than the Summit proper.  How effective?  Gaining credibility via association with high status people?  I&#039;d say it&#039;s necessary but not sufficient to make an issue mainstream. How &#039;fair&#039;?  Robin Hanson is asking?  If you were Steve Reyhawk I would hear &quot;how epistemically damaging, relative to X, both on the margin and inframarginally&quot; and might give it some thought, but I have no idea what you mean by &quot;fair&quot;.  Agreeing to speak at such an event implies little or no agreement regarding claims, but does imply, very strongly, the assertion that the organizers have enough status to be entitled to ask such claims and be engaged with by people of your level of status.  I don&#039;t know how many speakers agree with each claim associated with the Singularity.  I wouldn&#039;t break the claims down the way you did and don&#039;t take some of them very seriously at all.  It&#039;s also not my job to speak for them, especially having set up a forum for them to speak for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine Robin, answers?  Dialog is a common buzzword but I think that to an unusual degree we actually mean its content, though more regarding the workshop than the Summit proper.  How effective?  Gaining credibility via association with high status people?  I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s necessary but not sufficient to make an issue mainstream. How &#8216;fair&#8217;?  Robin Hanson is asking?  If you were Steve Reyhawk I would hear &#8220;how epistemically damaging, relative to X, both on the margin and inframarginally&#8221; and might give it some thought, but I have no idea what you mean by &#8220;fair&#8221;.  Agreeing to speak at such an event implies little or no agreement regarding claims, but does imply, very strongly, the assertion that the organizers have enough status to be entitled to ask such claims and be engaged with by people of your level of status.  I don&#8217;t know how many speakers agree with each claim associated with the Singularity.  I wouldn&#8217;t break the claims down the way you did and don&#8217;t take some of them very seriously at all.  It&#8217;s also not my job to speak for them, especially having set up a forum for them to speak for themselves.</p>
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