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		<title>By: How Fix Boards? &#187; Dig for Leadership - Stories that try to make the world a better place.</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/06/how-fix-boards.html#comment-429713</link>
		<dc:creator>How Fix Boards? &#187; Dig for Leadership - Stories that try to make the world a better place.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was kind enough to mention me as an early innovator. In his New Yorker column recently, he&#8230; carry on reading. AKPC_IDS += &quot;582,&quot;;  (No Ratings Yet) &#160;Loading ...     Posted in Leadership &#124; Tagged [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was kind enough to mention me as an early innovator. In his New Yorker column recently, he&#8230; carry on reading. AKPC_IDS += &#8220;582,&#8221;;  (No Ratings Yet) &nbsp;Loading &#8230;     Posted in Leadership | Tagged [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tangurena</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/06/how-fix-boards.html#comment-429389</link>
		<dc:creator>Tangurena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We already effectively have a cadre of full-time directors in the US. As someone who ran for an elected board position, I looked into private boards as well and what I saw was that they are all drawn from the managerial classes. 

The best change that we could do would be to eliminate the incestuous relationships between board members. And one way to do that would be to make it illegal to be on more than one board at a time. We should avoid (mis)managers for board members and instead hire people who work for a living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We already effectively have a cadre of full-time directors in the US. As someone who ran for an elected board position, I looked into private boards as well and what I saw was that they are all drawn from the managerial classes. </p>
<p>The best change that we could do would be to eliminate the incestuous relationships between board members. And one way to do that would be to make it illegal to be on more than one board at a time. We should avoid (mis)managers for board members and instead hire people who work for a living.</p>
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		<title>By: JGWeissman</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/06/how-fix-boards.html#comment-429348</link>
		<dc:creator>JGWeissman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a prediction market, or any other means, produced reliable information about what decisions a board should make, then having that same information available to shareholders should motivate the board to act on that information. If voting in my best interest is as easy as taking the recommendation of a prediction market, this becomes worthwhile to me even for small investments, especially if the prediction market enables small investors to vote as a bloc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a prediction market, or any other means, produced reliable information about what decisions a board should make, then having that same information available to shareholders should motivate the board to act on that information. If voting in my best interest is as easy as taking the recommendation of a prediction market, this becomes worthwhile to me even for small investments, especially if the prediction market enables small investors to vote as a bloc.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Hanson</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/06/how-fix-boards.html#comment-429331</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Hanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>K and Bauer, if you followed the link to my proposal you&#039;ll see the idea is to collect a track record of board that follow vs not the market advice, and then publicize and hopefully shame boards that reject such advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K and Bauer, if you followed the link to my proposal you&#8217;ll see the idea is to collect a track record of board that follow vs not the market advice, and then publicize and hopefully shame boards that reject such advice.</p>
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		<title>By: tg</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/06/how-fix-boards.html#comment-429310</link>
		<dc:creator>tg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following up on ac&#039;s thought: once prediction markets become as mainstream and democratized as the stock market, what is to keep them from being highjacked for speculation and providing less data on the issue being priced and merely reflecting speculative expectations of the predictions of the masses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following up on ac&#8217;s thought: once prediction markets become as mainstream and democratized as the stock market, what is to keep them from being highjacked for speculation and providing less data on the issue being priced and merely reflecting speculative expectations of the predictions of the masses?</p>
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		<title>By: a_c</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/06/how-fix-boards.html#comment-429309</link>
		<dc:creator>a_c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do we know that employees will not &quot;vote&quot; for firing top brass as an act of frustration rather than as a rational choice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do we know that employees will not &#8220;vote&#8221; for firing top brass as an act of frustration rather than as a rational choice?</p>
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		<title>By: James Surowiekci snubs Robin Hanson, and, in return, Robin Hanson mocks James Surowiekci. &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/06/how-fix-boards.html#comment-429303</link>
		<dc:creator>James Surowiekci snubs Robin Hanson, and, in return, Robin Hanson mocks James Surowiekci. &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] James Surowiekci snubs Robin Hanson, and, in return, Robin Hanson mocks James Surowiekci.   Written by Chris F. Masse on June 24, 2009 &#8212; Leave a Comment     Robin Hanson: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] James Surowiekci snubs Robin Hanson, and, in return, Robin Hanson mocks James Surowiekci.   Written by Chris F. Masse on June 24, 2009 &mdash; Leave a Comment     Robin Hanson: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bauer</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/06/how-fix-boards.html#comment-429300</link>
		<dc:creator>Bauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; In contrast, my proposal to use prediction markets to advise key board decisions like firing a CEO requires no investor concentration.&quot;


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...availability of &#039;good&#039; advice to board members is not the problem -- and is not a solution.

The problem is a general lack of integrity by board members (.. and CEO&#039;s) as economic agents of stockholders.

The &quot;Iron Law of Oligarchy&quot; always arises in static organizational structures.  


Dishonest employees (agents) must be promptly fired by the owners (principals).  If honest employees (board-members/CEO&#039;s) cannot be economically found --- the owners should liquidate the specific enterprise... and seek more productive investments for their capital.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; In contrast, my proposal to use prediction markets to advise key board decisions like firing a CEO requires no investor concentration.&#8221;</p>
<p>______________</p>
<p>&#8230;availability of &#8216;good&#8217; advice to board members is not the problem &#8212; and is not a solution.</p>
<p>The problem is a general lack of integrity by board members (.. and CEO&#8217;s) as economic agents of stockholders.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Iron Law of Oligarchy&#8221; always arises in static organizational structures.  </p>
<p>Dishonest employees (agents) must be promptly fired by the owners (principals).  If honest employees (board-members/CEO&#8217;s) cannot be economically found &#8212; the owners should liquidate the specific enterprise&#8230; and seek more productive investments for their capital.</p>
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		<title>By: K. Larson</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/06/how-fix-boards.html#comment-429296</link>
		<dc:creator>K. Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin has totally convinced me of the utility of prediction markets in generating accurate data (except where Brian Caplan has convinced me that error is not normally distributed).

However, as I understand it, the primary problem with US boards is not that they lack quality information, but that they are &lt;em&gt;disinclined to act on good information.&lt;/em&gt;

Board members that overpay the CEO or fail to adequately oversee management&#039;s shenanigans aren&#039;t acting under the mistaken belief that they are maximizing shareholder value- they&#039;re acting under the entirely correct belief that they are protecting and assisting their friends/co-conspirators at the cost of the shareholders.

Prediction markets would be a fantastic aid to honest boards however, and so one might argue that prediction markets could raise the price of fecklessness by increasing competitive pressure from firms with less supine directors. This doesn&#039;t seem like a sure thing, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin has totally convinced me of the utility of prediction markets in generating accurate data (except where Brian Caplan has convinced me that error is not normally distributed).</p>
<p>However, as I understand it, the primary problem with US boards is not that they lack quality information, but that they are <em>disinclined to act on good information.</em></p>
<p>Board members that overpay the CEO or fail to adequately oversee management&#8217;s shenanigans aren&#8217;t acting under the mistaken belief that they are maximizing shareholder value- they&#8217;re acting under the entirely correct belief that they are protecting and assisting their friends/co-conspirators at the cost of the shareholders.</p>
<p>Prediction markets would be a fantastic aid to honest boards however, and so one might argue that prediction markets could raise the price of fecklessness by increasing competitive pressure from firms with less supine directors. This doesn&#8217;t seem like a sure thing, however.</p>
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