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		<title>By: Robert Bloomfield</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/05/we-only-need-a-handshake.html#comment-424913</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Bloomfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Signaling models do suffer from the &#039;just so story&#039; problem, which is one reason that they are not all that popular in mainstream economics anymore.  I am not sure how much sense it makes to rely heavily on them in more speculative areas, like human social behavior. 

I was inspired by this post to write my own thoughts &lt;a href=&quot;http://fasri.net/index.php/2009/05/what-happened-to-signaling-models/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; about the decline of signaling models in finance and accounting...Ron Dye of Northwestern wrote a comment that alone is worth clicking on the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Signaling models do suffer from the &#8216;just so story&#8217; problem, which is one reason that they are not all that popular in mainstream economics anymore.  I am not sure how much sense it makes to rely heavily on them in more speculative areas, like human social behavior. </p>
<p>I was inspired by this post to write my own thoughts <a href="http://fasri.net/index.php/2009/05/what-happened-to-signaling-models/" rel="nofollow">here</a> about the decline of signaling models in finance and accounting&#8230;Ron Dye of Northwestern wrote a comment that alone is worth clicking on the link.</p>
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		<title>By: Les liens du matin (48) &#171; Rationalité Limitée</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les liens du matin (48) &#171; Rationalité Limitée</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 06:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Just a Handshake&#8221; &#8211; Overcoming [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Interessantes woanders (2009.05.27) › Immersion I/O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Interessantes woanders (2009.05.27) › Immersion I/O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 07:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John Maxwell IV</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Maxwell IV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 04:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do any of those hundreds of papers have experimental data to back up their claims?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do any of those hundreds of papers have experimental data to back up their claims?</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 02:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is another example of the paradox of this site.

For humans, overcome bias is like overcoming oxygen dependency. It is fundamental to who we are.

Post-human is a really useful concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is another example of the paradox of this site.</p>
<p>For humans, overcome bias is like overcoming oxygen dependency. It is fundamental to who we are.</p>
<p>Post-human is a really useful concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 02:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; ... an audience that finds them too implausible to believe, even when backed by such publications.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It seems to me that some pointers into the literature are just what your audience needs. You can hardly blame them for finding signaling explanations implausible when (i) humanity&#039;s very nature blinds us to the signaling we&#039;re doing, and (ii) they&#039;re unaware of the data, and thus cannot update to where you&#039;re at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> &#8230; an audience that finds them too implausible to believe, even when backed by such publications.</p></blockquote>
<p>It seems to me that some pointers into the literature are just what your audience needs. You can hardly blame them for finding signaling explanations implausible when (i) humanity&#8217;s very nature blinds us to the signaling we&#8217;re doing, and (ii) they&#8217;re unaware of the data, and thus cannot update to where you&#8217;re at.</p>
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		<title>By: nazgulnarsil</title>
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		<dc:creator>nazgulnarsil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 00:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jess:
how masculine or feminine a face women prefer varies over the course of their cycle.  women prefer more masculine faces while fertile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jess:<br />
how masculine or feminine a face women prefer varies over the course of their cycle.  women prefer more masculine faces while fertile.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 23:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think anyone wants to explain everything with signaling. 

But it would help if signaling was considered before embarking on a search for brand new explanations. That is like reinventing the wheel, with corners.

Grammar: 

&quot;you&quot; and &quot;I&quot; are objects of the preposition. Prescriptively, &quot;I&quot; should be &quot;me&quot; and the entire noun phrase could be reduced to &quot;us.&quot; Conversationally, nobody cares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone wants to explain everything with signaling. </p>
<p>But it would help if signaling was considered before embarking on a search for brand new explanations. That is like reinventing the wheel, with corners.</p>
<p>Grammar: </p>
<p>&#8220;you&#8221; and &#8220;I&#8221; are objects of the preposition. Prescriptively, &#8220;I&#8221; should be &#8220;me&#8221; and the entire noun phrase could be reduced to &#8220;us.&#8221; Conversationally, nobody cares.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Hanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Hanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 23:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, I agree that we eventually want explanations at all levels, and that we especially want to explain why folks aren&#039;t aware of signaling. 

Jess, yes it can be hard to determine what causes what; all we can do is try.

Jaffa, I made it up, and may well have the grammar wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, I agree that we eventually want explanations at all levels, and that we especially want to explain why folks aren&#8217;t aware of signaling. </p>
<p>Jess, yes it can be hard to determine what causes what; all we can do is try.</p>
<p>Jaffa, I made it up, and may well have the grammar wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaffa_Cakes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaffa_Cakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 23:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“Between you and I, my friend, a handshake is enough.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Where is that from? I have been looking at it for a couple of minutes and I&#039;m pretty sure that grammatically it should be &quot;Between you &lt;strong&gt;me&lt;/strong&gt;, my friend, a handshake is enough.&quot;

The handshake is the subject and &quot;you&quot; and &quot;me&quot; are just objects in the sentence, aren&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“Between you and I, my friend, a handshake is enough.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Where is that from? I have been looking at it for a couple of minutes and I&#8217;m pretty sure that grammatically it should be &#8220;Between you <strong>me</strong>, my friend, a handshake is enough.&#8221;</p>
<p>The handshake is the subject and &#8220;you&#8221; and &#8220;me&#8221; are just objects in the sentence, aren&#8217;t they?</p>
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