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		<title>By: Damien R. S.</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/03/what-changed.html#comment-425399</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien R. S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;historical reductions or limitations in government, crisis or not:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;fall of the USSR&lt;br&gt;
welfare reform (maybe)&lt;br&gt;
term limits&lt;br&gt;
end of Prohibition&lt;br&gt;
shrunk militaries&lt;br&gt;
California&#039;s Prop 13&lt;br&gt;
bills of rights&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Assurance contracts are interest; I swung from libertarian/semi-anarcho-capitalist to social democrat largely on the problems of externalities and public goods.  Though also on concentration of wealth, and the fact that modern Westerners seem unwilling to just let people die at the point of need of food or health care, and that reluctance undermines exclusionary social insurance in those goods.  Still, demonstrating assurance contracts working at large scales would help reduce the scope of government action.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>historical reductions or limitations in government, crisis or not:</p>
<p>fall of the USSR<br />
welfare reform (maybe)<br />
term limits<br />
end of Prohibition<br />
shrunk militaries<br />
California&#8217;s Prop 13<br />
bills of rights</p>
<p>Assurance contracts are interest; I swung from libertarian/semi-anarcho-capitalist to social democrat largely on the problems of externalities and public goods.  Though also on concentration of wealth, and the fact that modern Westerners seem unwilling to just let people die at the point of need of food or health care, and that reluctance undermines exclusionary social insurance in those goods.  Still, demonstrating assurance contracts working at large scales would help reduce the scope of government action.</p>
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		<title>By: Cormac</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/03/what-changed.html#comment-425398</link>
		<dc:creator>Cormac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I can think of one striking example - after Hurricane Katrina the New Orleans education system was rebuilt with a strong reliance on charter schools, as well as a smaller scale voucher program.  In this instance, a terribly corrupt and underperforming govenmental institution (Orleans Parish School Board) was dismantaled in the wake of a crisis. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Take care,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cormac &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can think of one striking example &#8211; after Hurricane Katrina the New Orleans education system was rebuilt with a strong reliance on charter schools, as well as a smaller scale voucher program.  In this instance, a terribly corrupt and underperforming govenmental institution (Orleans Parish School Board) was dismantaled in the wake of a crisis. </p>
<p>Take care,</p>
<p>Cormac </p>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Who, with any widespread credibility, can say that &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; being done isn&#039;t being done because of the &#039;crisis&#039;? The US has entered a political &#039;happy death spiral&#039; where anything is possible as long as it&#039;s a plausible response to the &#039;crisis&#039;. The real crisis is that there are now no clear rules, only jockeying for position at court.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who, with any widespread credibility, can say that <i>anything</i> being done isn&#8217;t being done because of the &#8216;crisis&#8217;? The US has entered a political &#8216;happy death spiral&#8217; where anything is possible as long as it&#8217;s a plausible response to the &#8216;crisis&#8217;. The real crisis is that there are now no clear rules, only jockeying for position at court.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/03/what-changed.html#comment-386352</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this all makes sense if you think of the vast majority of people as very uncritical thinkers who cling to any ideas they naively think they understand.

Such ideas have been dubbed &quot;conventional wisdom&quot; by Galbraith.  Part of the conventional wisdom of many Americans has involved notions like &quot;smaller government is better than bigger government&quot; and &quot;freer markets are better than regulation.&quot;

Suppose most Americans substitute thoughtfulness for blind adherence to such generalities.  But the present financial crisis has made clear -- even to a very thoughtless person -- that such generalities aren&#039;t always true.  Clearly at least some times regulation helps (if for example it prevents bad mortgages and/or banks taking on too much risk) and at least some times bigger government is better (if for example it prevents depositors from losing all their money when a bank fails).

To a person who has always been critical and thoughtful, the lessons learned from the present crisis might be relatively subtle.  But to a thoughtless person with the above accepted wisdom, this produces huge cracks in their worldview.  And because such a person isn&#039;t very critical or thoughtful, they&#039;re likely to rather blindly accept the next bit of imparted &#039;wisdom&#039; that makes sense of the world to them.

I think for many people, Obama has successfully filled the cracks in the old conventional wisdom with a new narrative.  He has been so successful in part because of circumstance -- being the focus of attention of an uncritical audience at just the right time -- in part because of his intelligence, eloquence, and charisma -- which make him a more compelling advocate for those who put at least a modicum of thought into their beliefs -- and in part because he has been shrewd in his approach to policy so far, at least giving the appearance of bipartisanship and honest concern, and thus presenting himself as trustworthy.

And so, I think what &quot;changed&quot; was just that a major event caused people to consider that their accepted wisdom was wrong, and the political discourse at the time was dominated by a different voice than the one that dominated whenever they adopted their previous worldview.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this all makes sense if you think of the vast majority of people as very uncritical thinkers who cling to any ideas they naively think they understand.</p>
<p>Such ideas have been dubbed &#8220;conventional wisdom&#8221; by Galbraith.  Part of the conventional wisdom of many Americans has involved notions like &#8220;smaller government is better than bigger government&#8221; and &#8220;freer markets are better than regulation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Suppose most Americans substitute thoughtfulness for blind adherence to such generalities.  But the present financial crisis has made clear &#8212; even to a very thoughtless person &#8212; that such generalities aren&#8217;t always true.  Clearly at least some times regulation helps (if for example it prevents bad mortgages and/or banks taking on too much risk) and at least some times bigger government is better (if for example it prevents depositors from losing all their money when a bank fails).</p>
<p>To a person who has always been critical and thoughtful, the lessons learned from the present crisis might be relatively subtle.  But to a thoughtless person with the above accepted wisdom, this produces huge cracks in their worldview.  And because such a person isn&#8217;t very critical or thoughtful, they&#8217;re likely to rather blindly accept the next bit of imparted &#8216;wisdom&#8217; that makes sense of the world to them.</p>
<p>I think for many people, Obama has successfully filled the cracks in the old conventional wisdom with a new narrative.  He has been so successful in part because of circumstance &#8212; being the focus of attention of an uncritical audience at just the right time &#8212; in part because of his intelligence, eloquence, and charisma &#8212; which make him a more compelling advocate for those who put at least a modicum of thought into their beliefs &#8212; and in part because he has been shrewd in his approach to policy so far, at least giving the appearance of bipartisanship and honest concern, and thus presenting himself as trustworthy.</p>
<p>And so, I think what &#8220;changed&#8221; was just that a major event caused people to consider that their accepted wisdom was wrong, and the political discourse at the time was dominated by a different voice than the one that dominated whenever they adopted their previous worldview.</p>
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		<title>By: TGGP</title>
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		<dc:creator>TGGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>denis bider, Bryan Caplan &lt;a href=&quot;http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2007/07/independence_da.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;disagrees&lt;/a&gt; on the American revolution (which I don&#039;t even think was caused by any sort of crisis). Also, I thougth Switzerland has been around since the middle ages, what oppressive government did it split off from?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>denis bider, Bryan Caplan <a href="http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2007/07/independence_da.html" rel="nofollow">disagrees</a> on the American revolution (which I don&#8217;t even think was caused by any sort of crisis). Also, I thougth Switzerland has been around since the middle ages, what oppressive government did it split off from?</p>
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		<title>By: Mikko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grant: They could have started from having sane amount of leverage.

Juan Enriquez claims in the beginning of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ted.com/talks/juan_enriquez_shares_mindboggling_new_science.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; Ted Talk that while commercial banks have an average of 9x leverage and investment banks 15-20x leverage, Bank of America had 32x and Citibank 47x leverages.

For insurance companies, common leverages leverages are little bit lower. In &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2008/09/17/aigs-failure-is-so-much-bigger-than-enron.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2007&lt;/&gt; Berkshire Hathaway and Montpelier had 2x leverage. Markel, Travelers, White Mountains and Chubb had 4x leverage. AIG had 11x leverage.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grant: They could have started from having sane amount of leverage.</p>
<p>Juan Enriquez claims in the beginning of <a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/juan_enriquez_shares_mindboggling_new_science.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> Ted Talk that while commercial banks have an average of 9x leverage and investment banks 15-20x leverage, Bank of America had 32x and Citibank 47x leverages.</p>
<p>For insurance companies, common leverages leverages are little bit lower. In <a href="http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2008/09/17/aigs-failure-is-so-much-bigger-than-enron.aspx" rel="nofollow">2007 Berkshire Hathaway and Montpelier had 2x leverage. Markel, Travelers, White Mountains and Chubb had 4x leverage. AIG had 11x leverage.</a></p>
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		<title>By: denis bider</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/03/what-changed.html#comment-386349</link>
		<dc:creator>denis bider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am surprised that no one mentioned that there &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a type of crisis that will induce a widespread libertarian response. It is the sort of crisis that led to the creation of Switzerland or the United States. It involves the public perception of an oppressive, exploitative government.

As long as the public does &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; perceive the government as oppressive and exploitative overall, however, the drive towards totalitarianism is strong, because people in general are weak, and need external frameworks to cling to.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised that no one mentioned that there <i>is</i> a type of crisis that will induce a widespread libertarian response. It is the sort of crisis that led to the creation of Switzerland or the United States. It involves the public perception of an oppressive, exploitative government.</p>
<p>As long as the public does <i>not</i> perceive the government as oppressive and exploitative overall, however, the drive towards totalitarianism is strong, because people in general are weak, and need external frameworks to cling to.</p>
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		<title>By: pdf23ds</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/03/what-changed.html#comment-386348</link>
		<dc:creator>pdf23ds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry if this has been said, but it seems obvious to me that the more likely explanation is that the things above and beyond response to the crisis are things that a democratic candidate would have liked to do anyway, with or without a crisis, and the fact that a lot of it is actually getting done is because crises give the person in power more political capital to actually do things.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if this has been said, but it seems obvious to me that the more likely explanation is that the things above and beyond response to the crisis are things that a democratic candidate would have liked to do anyway, with or without a crisis, and the fact that a lot of it is actually getting done is because crises give the person in power more political capital to actually do things.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nazgulnarsil: It takes away from the later points if the premises are assumed when they&#039;re clearly controversial.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nazgulnarsil: It takes away from the later points if the premises are assumed when they&#8217;re clearly controversial.</p>
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		<title>By: nazgulnarsil</title>
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		<dc:creator>nazgulnarsil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian C. can you point to a time period post 1920&#039;s in which the U.S. government hasn&#039;t used a &quot;crisis&quot; as justification for broad action?
The american people still have libertarian leanings that politicians must overcome, otherwise they wouldn&#039;t need to bother with the rhetoric.
what you&#039;re describing as a failure mode has become the norm: push for change during a crisis that will have effects that extend far beyond the crisis.  By the time the crisis is over everyone will forget all about it, relieved to be out of the mess.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian C. can you point to a time period post 1920&#8242;s in which the U.S. government hasn&#8217;t used a &#8220;crisis&#8221; as justification for broad action?<br />
The american people still have libertarian leanings that politicians must overcome, otherwise they wouldn&#8217;t need to bother with the rhetoric.<br />
what you&#8217;re describing as a failure mode has become the norm: push for change during a crisis that will have effects that extend far beyond the crisis.  By the time the crisis is over everyone will forget all about it, relieved to be out of the mess.</p>
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