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		<title>By: viki</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/02/seeking-a-cynics-library.html#comment-425419</link>
		<dc:creator>viki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;A people&#039;s history of the United States&quot; by Howard Zinn&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A people&#8217;s history of the United States&#8221; by Howard Zinn</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/02/seeking-a-cynics-library.html#comment-425418</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Several of Sowell&#039;s books, including Basic Economics. Some of Hayek&#039;s writing is also cynical of ideas like socialism and &quot;meritocracy.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several of Sowell&#8217;s books, including Basic Economics. Some of Hayek&#8217;s writing is also cynical of ideas like socialism and &#8220;meritocracy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Knight</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/02/seeking-a-cynics-library.html#comment-387089</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 03:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jimrandomh says that cynics believe in chaos. Perhaps people who profess cynicism use chaos as an excuse for failing to engage with the system, but when one &lt;em&gt;accuses&lt;/em&gt; other people of cynicism, especially &quot;cynical manipulation,&quot; the accusation is that the cynic believes in a very structured world.

Perhaps cynicism is associated with defection, but the various uses depend on the independent questions of whether the cynic defects and whether everyone else defects. Mere association is a sign that a word is bad for communication. (like &quot;normative&quot;)

(perhaps that was unfair to jimrandomh)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jimrandomh says that cynics believe in chaos. Perhaps people who profess cynicism use chaos as an excuse for failing to engage with the system, but when one <em>accuses</em> other people of cynicism, especially &#8220;cynical manipulation,&#8221; the accusation is that the cynic believes in a very structured world.</p>
<p>Perhaps cynicism is associated with defection, but the various uses depend on the independent questions of whether the cynic defects and whether everyone else defects. Mere association is a sign that a word is bad for communication. (like &#8220;normative&#8221;)</p>
<p>(perhaps that was unfair to jimrandomh)</p>
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		<title>By: michael vassar</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael vassar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are great suggestions Hopefully.
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		<title>By: Hopefully Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/02/seeking-a-cynics-library.html#comment-387087</link>
		<dc:creator>Hopefully Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A cynical way to develop a lifelong predisposition towards idealism in a kid may be for an overbearing adult to emphasize the importance of their learning cynicism.

An alternative or supplement to a cynic&#039;s library of cynical books is a cynic&#039;s library of conflictingly idealistic books by rival experts or observers.

In terms of a sort of comprehensive cynicism that&#039;s an easy pill to swallow, I think Douglas Adams&#039; Hitchhiker series is hard to beat. For more official stuff that purports to be empirical, history textbooks from rival nations (translated appropriately) and educational and advocacy literature from rival interest groups (pharmaceutical companies, plaintiff&#039;s law firms) could be useful. Selections from all that could make a good reader for younger age groups.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A cynical way to develop a lifelong predisposition towards idealism in a kid may be for an overbearing adult to emphasize the importance of their learning cynicism.</p>
<p>An alternative or supplement to a cynic&#8217;s library of cynical books is a cynic&#8217;s library of conflictingly idealistic books by rival experts or observers.</p>
<p>In terms of a sort of comprehensive cynicism that&#8217;s an easy pill to swallow, I think Douglas Adams&#8217; Hitchhiker series is hard to beat. For more official stuff that purports to be empirical, history textbooks from rival nations (translated appropriately) and educational and advocacy literature from rival interest groups (pharmaceutical companies, plaintiff&#8217;s law firms) could be useful. Selections from all that could make a good reader for younger age groups.</p>
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		<title>By: Eliezer Yudkowsky</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/02/seeking-a-cynics-library.html#comment-387086</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliezer Yudkowsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Master rationalist) Robyn Dawes&#039;s &quot;House of Cards&quot; does for psychiatry and psychoanalysis what Robin Hanson does for healthcare spending in general.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Master rationalist) Robyn Dawes&#8217;s &#8220;House of Cards&#8221; does for psychiatry and psychoanalysis what Robin Hanson does for healthcare spending in general.</p>
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		<title>By: Floccina</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/02/seeking-a-cynics-library.html#comment-387085</link>
		<dc:creator>Floccina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tangental to other comments that mention &quot;Yes, Minister&quot;, my father used to work with the police in a mid sized US city and he used to say that &quot;Barney Miller&quot; was the only realistic cop show.  My guess is that the CIA, FBI etc are the same.   Just a bunch of people waiting to retire with full benefits.  I bet that Medical care is more like scrubs than House but scrubs has way too much success also.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tangental to other comments that mention &#8220;Yes, Minister&#8221;, my father used to work with the police in a mid sized US city and he used to say that &#8220;Barney Miller&#8221; was the only realistic cop show.  My guess is that the CIA, FBI etc are the same.   Just a bunch of people waiting to retire with full benefits.  I bet that Medical care is more like scrubs than House but scrubs has way too much success also.</p>
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		<title>By: Eliezer Yudkowsky</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/02/seeking-a-cynics-library.html#comment-387084</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliezer Yudkowsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That reminds me - &quot;Parkinson&#039;s Law&quot; and &quot;The Peter Principle&quot; are old classics, but I don&#039;t know if they&#039;re superseded by more factual (and equally well-written?) works on the same subject.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That reminds me &#8211; &#8220;Parkinson&#8217;s Law&#8221; and &#8220;The Peter Principle&#8221; are old classics, but I don&#8217;t know if they&#8217;re superseded by more factual (and equally well-written?) works on the same subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug S.</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/02/seeking-a-cynics-library.html#comment-387083</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d also suggest the non-fiction works by Scott Adams, as well as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Putts-Law-Successful-Technocrat-Information/dp/0471714224&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Putt&#039;s Law and The Successful Technocrat&lt;/a&gt;, which is a must-read for anyone who wants to understand how technology corporations operate.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d also suggest the non-fiction works by Scott Adams, as well as <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Putts-Law-Successful-Technocrat-Information/dp/0471714224" rel="nofollow">Putt&#8217;s Law and The Successful Technocrat</a>, which is a must-read for anyone who wants to understand how technology corporations operate.</p>
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		<title>By: outofculture</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/02/seeking-a-cynics-library.html#comment-387082</link>
		<dc:creator>outofculture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a book, but Penn&amp;Teller&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Bullshit&lt;/i&gt; would be pretty accessible to an adolescent audience.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a book, but Penn&#038;Teller&#8217;s <i>Bullshit</i> would be pretty accessible to an adolescent audience.</p>
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