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		<title>By: Lawrence Jay Kramer</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/12/showoff-bias.html#comment-452274</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence Jay Kramer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the bias is value-adding bias, and showing off is just a secondary matter.

As H.L. Mencken wisely observed, every complex problem has an answer that is simple, plausible, and wrong.  We can pretty much count on ordinary minds not only to think of these solutions, but to offer them.  So what is the genius to do but &quot;specialize&quot; in solutions that others do not think of?  That&#039;s what makes genius worth having.  Yes, the need to specialize in things other don&#039;t think of is a bias - no matter how smart you are, if you have a hammer, things tend to look like nails - but I wouldn&#039;t attribute it to something as small-minded as showing off, as it is serves a wholly rational purpose of using rare resources for rare purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the bias is value-adding bias, and showing off is just a secondary matter.</p>
<p>As H.L. Mencken wisely observed, every complex problem has an answer that is simple, plausible, and wrong.  We can pretty much count on ordinary minds not only to think of these solutions, but to offer them.  So what is the genius to do but &#8220;specialize&#8221; in solutions that others do not think of?  That&#8217;s what makes genius worth having.  Yes, the need to specialize in things other don&#8217;t think of is a bias &#8211; no matter how smart you are, if you have a hammer, things tend to look like nails &#8211; but I wouldn&#8217;t attribute it to something as small-minded as showing off, as it is serves a wholly rational purpose of using rare resources for rare purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: William Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree in part (for there will alway be showoffs). Complexity in explanations are at times a way to &quot;blanket&quot; a problem and fill all the nooks and crannies with a theory before simplifying that theory via a common explanation.

I liken it to writing and to quote Pascal ... &quot;My Reverend Fathers, my letters have not usually followed so closely, nor been so long. The small amount of time that I have is the cause of both. I would not have made this so long except that I do not have the leisure to make it shorter.&quot;

Perhaps the reason for complexity is lack of time to make it simpler?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree in part (for there will alway be showoffs). Complexity in explanations are at times a way to &#8220;blanket&#8221; a problem and fill all the nooks and crannies with a theory before simplifying that theory via a common explanation.</p>
<p>I liken it to writing and to quote Pascal &#8230; &#8220;My Reverend Fathers, my letters have not usually followed so closely, nor been so long. The small amount of time that I have is the cause of both. I would not have made this so long except that I do not have the leisure to make it shorter.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps the reason for complexity is lack of time to make it simpler?</p>
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		<title>By: Vijay Krishnan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vijay Krishnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug:

What you say is true if indexes were a collection of stocks picked by really smart people who evaluate what businesses have wonderful prospects etc.

In reality all they look to do is follow a simple algorithm that needs no smarts.

You just start off with the CAPM style reasoning which leads you to conclude that the optimal portfolio to hold (from the point of view of minimum variance &#039;risk&#039; for a particular expected return), is simply buying the &#039;market&#039;. This in other words means that you should put some fraction of your money in all stocks and other risky assets in the world, with the weightage being proportional to the market capitalization of the stock or financial instrument and the remaining money in a &quot;risk-free&quot; instrument like US treasury bills.

All index funds do is to approximate at least a country&#039;s market, by picking a sufficiently large number of stocks with high market cap. And thereby avoiding the hassle for the individual investor to actually go and buy 500-10000 odd stocks in a market cap weighted fashion.

So for all practical purposes, the index is fairly &quot;zero knowledge&quot;, since the algorithm is quite precise and public, which is &quot;create a large basket of stocks that approximates the whole market to the extent possible&quot;.





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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug:</p>
<p>What you say is true if indexes were a collection of stocks picked by really smart people who evaluate what businesses have wonderful prospects etc.</p>
<p>In reality all they look to do is follow a simple algorithm that needs no smarts.</p>
<p>You just start off with the CAPM style reasoning which leads you to conclude that the optimal portfolio to hold (from the point of view of minimum variance &#8216;risk&#8217; for a particular expected return), is simply buying the &#8216;market&#8217;. This in other words means that you should put some fraction of your money in all stocks and other risky assets in the world, with the weightage being proportional to the market capitalization of the stock or financial instrument and the remaining money in a &#8220;risk-free&#8221; instrument like US treasury bills.</p>
<p>All index funds do is to approximate at least a country&#8217;s market, by picking a sufficiently large number of stocks with high market cap. And thereby avoiding the hassle for the individual investor to actually go and buy 500-10000 odd stocks in a market cap weighted fashion.</p>
<p>So for all practical purposes, the index is fairly &#8220;zero knowledge&#8221;, since the algorithm is quite precise and public, which is &#8220;create a large basket of stocks that approximates the whole market to the extent possible&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Hanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Hanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philip, yes more precisely academics expect the most interesting or useful answers to be more complex and subtle.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip, yes more precisely academics expect the most interesting or useful answers to be more complex and subtle.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug S.</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/12/showoff-bias.html#comment-389849</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Index funds are not that much different, fundamentally speaking, than actively managed funds. After all, someone has to choose what stocks get put in the index; an index fund simply copies the algorithm used by the makers of the index. It is not a &quot;zero intelligence&quot; strategy of picking stocks at random.

In the case of the S&amp;P 500, the stocks in the index are chosen by a committee of humans, using their own judgment. (They attempt to select stocks that form a representative sample of the economy of the United States as a whole.) If index funds that follow the S&amp;P 500 beat actively managed funds, then wouldn&#039;t that make the members of that committee abnormally good at stock picking? ;)

Interestingly, because index funds exist, whether or not a stock is listed in an index affects the price of the stock. If a stock is taken off the S&amp;P 500, all the index funds that follow the S&amp;P 500 have to sell it, depressing the price of the stock. Similarly, a stock that gets added to an index experiences a surge of demand, causing its price to rise.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Index funds are not that much different, fundamentally speaking, than actively managed funds. After all, someone has to choose what stocks get put in the index; an index fund simply copies the algorithm used by the makers of the index. It is not a &#8220;zero intelligence&#8221; strategy of picking stocks at random.</p>
<p>In the case of the S&#038;P 500, the stocks in the index are chosen by a committee of humans, using their own judgment. (They attempt to select stocks that form a representative sample of the economy of the United States as a whole.) If index funds that follow the S&#038;P 500 beat actively managed funds, then wouldn&#8217;t that make the members of that committee abnormally good at stock picking? <img src='http://www.overcomingbias.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Interestingly, because index funds exist, whether or not a stock is listed in an index affects the price of the stock. If a stock is taken off the S&#038;P 500, all the index funds that follow the S&#038;P 500 have to sell it, depressing the price of the stock. Similarly, a stock that gets added to an index experiences a surge of demand, causing its price to rise.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Goetz</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/12/showoff-bias.html#comment-389848</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Goetz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin wrote: &quot;I&#039;ve noticed that a mark of academics is that they expect the answers of important questions to be more complex and subtler than others expect. It would be great to collect data to see who is more biased here, academics or non-academics.&quot;

Important questions don&#039;t have answers.  They have increasingly accurate and complex approximations.  Academics are more willing to consider more complex approximations.  That doesn&#039;t mean they have a lower opinion of the simple answers.

(Though it wouldn&#039;t surprise me if they did.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin wrote: &#8220;I&#8217;ve noticed that a mark of academics is that they expect the answers of important questions to be more complex and subtler than others expect. It would be great to collect data to see who is more biased here, academics or non-academics.&#8221;</p>
<p>Important questions don&#8217;t have answers.  They have increasingly accurate and complex approximations.  Academics are more willing to consider more complex approximations.  That doesn&#8217;t mean they have a lower opinion of the simple answers.</p>
<p>(Though it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if they did.)</p>
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		<title>By: John Maxwell</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/12/showoff-bias.html#comment-389847</link>
		<dc:creator>John Maxwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another explanation for this phenomenon is a &lt;i&gt;complexity is fun&lt;/i&gt; bias.  If you realize how good tit-for-tat is, you&#039;ll stop searching, which means the fun is over.

Finding subtle differences is fun because of the pleasure of grokking.  I always get a kick out of understanding something on a deeper level than it&#039;s being explained to me.

As for stocks: People also have come up with complicated strategies which are supposed to help them make money while gambling.  If there is the potential for easy money with very little work, people will overanalyze.

The show-off bias is what comes in at the end when you &lt;i&gt;share&lt;/i&gt; your discoveries, even though they are useless.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another explanation for this phenomenon is a <i>complexity is fun</i> bias.  If you realize how good tit-for-tat is, you&#8217;ll stop searching, which means the fun is over.</p>
<p>Finding subtle differences is fun because of the pleasure of grokking.  I always get a kick out of understanding something on a deeper level than it&#8217;s being explained to me.</p>
<p>As for stocks: People also have come up with complicated strategies which are supposed to help them make money while gambling.  If there is the potential for easy money with very little work, people will overanalyze.</p>
<p>The show-off bias is what comes in at the end when you <i>share</i> your discoveries, even though they are useless.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gowder</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/12/showoff-bias.html#comment-389846</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Gowder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how come we don&#039;t see counter-showoff bias, where people in communities of people who adopt, e.g., atheism, adopt things like theism to be contextually counterintuitive?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how come we don&#8217;t see counter-showoff bias, where people in communities of people who adopt, e.g., atheism, adopt things like theism to be contextually counterintuitive?</p>
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		<title>By: Cihan</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/12/showoff-bias.html#comment-389845</link>
		<dc:creator>Cihan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not always.

See this Ted Talk by Murray Gell-Man about how he looks for &quot;simplicity&quot; as an indication of truth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuRxRGR3VpM
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not always.</p>
<p>See this Ted Talk by Murray Gell-Man about how he looks for &#8220;simplicity&#8221; as an indication of truth:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuRxRGR3VpM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuRxRGR3VpM</a></p>
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		<title>By: Caliban Darklock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caliban Darklock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corollary: Because a simple answer to a complex problem is always counter-intuitive, the bias of a self-identified smart person toward complex and counter-intuitive answers is not a detractor.

Therefore, smart people should only be given complex problems. Let those with less intelligence (or at least more humility) handle the simple ones, because they will perform more accurately (i.e. with less bias).

Therefore, smart people should have assistants. Or, to quote Don Lapre, &quot;never do anything yourself when someone else is ready, willing, and able to do it for eight bucks an hour&quot;. (Actually, in my experience, you can&#039;t expect competence for less than twelve.)


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corollary: Because a simple answer to a complex problem is always counter-intuitive, the bias of a self-identified smart person toward complex and counter-intuitive answers is not a detractor.</p>
<p>Therefore, smart people should only be given complex problems. Let those with less intelligence (or at least more humility) handle the simple ones, because they will perform more accurately (i.e. with less bias).</p>
<p>Therefore, smart people should have assistants. Or, to quote Don Lapre, &#8220;never do anything yourself when someone else is ready, willing, and able to do it for eight bucks an hour&#8221;. (Actually, in my experience, you can&#8217;t expect competence for less than twelve.)</p>
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