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		<title>By: Why We Humans Don't "Get" Dangerous Climate Change &#124; Global Climate Change Information</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why We Humans Don't "Get" Dangerous Climate Change &#124; Global Climate Change Information</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 04:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] perhaps our ancestors found it useful to have an exaggerated certainty. This phenomenon allows leaders to get groups to engage in purposeful action. Unfortunately this human attribute is not helpful [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] perhaps our ancestors found it useful to have an exaggerated certainty. This phenomenon allows leaders to get groups to engage in purposeful action. Unfortunately this human attribute is not helpful [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jsalvati</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/11/convenient-over.html#comment-392440</link>
		<dc:creator>jsalvati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HH:

It looks like they tested that: &quot;Experiment 2 ruled out audience concreteness and status as explanations for this effect.&quot;
At least that&#039;s how I read that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HH:</p>
<p>It looks like they tested that: &#8220;Experiment 2 ruled out audience concreteness and status as explanations for this effect.&#8221;<br />
At least that&#8217;s how I read that.</p>
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		<title>By: JimmyH</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimmyH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is exactly Caplan&#039;s point. People are more irrational when it&#039;s cheap.

It&#039;s not that it&#039;s worth doing more cognitive work when the stakes are high, it&#039;s that people *actually try* to get it right. From an Evolutionary Psychology viewpoint, it&#039;s not surprising.

One of my favorite tricks is to ask myself &quot;Would you bet on that at those odds?&quot;. The answer should never be obvious (if it is, shift your odds such that it isn&#039;t), so if you catch yourself thinking &quot;WOAH! I never said anything about *betting*!&quot;, then you&#039;ve made a mistake. The goal is to give odds such that you&#039;re willing to bet on either side if someone calls you out (unless conditioning on their willingness to bet changes the odds significantly).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly Caplan&#8217;s point. People are more irrational when it&#8217;s cheap.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that it&#8217;s worth doing more cognitive work when the stakes are high, it&#8217;s that people *actually try* to get it right. From an Evolutionary Psychology viewpoint, it&#8217;s not surprising.</p>
<p>One of my favorite tricks is to ask myself &#8220;Would you bet on that at those odds?&#8221;. The answer should never be obvious (if it is, shift your odds such that it isn&#8217;t), so if you catch yourself thinking &#8220;WOAH! I never said anything about *betting*!&#8221;, then you&#8217;ve made a mistake. The goal is to give odds such that you&#8217;re willing to bet on either side if someone calls you out (unless conditioning on their willingness to bet changes the odds significantly).</p>
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		<title>By: HH</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/11/convenient-over.html#comment-392438</link>
		<dc:creator>HH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this basic signaling again? As this blog has said many times before, the ability to deceive is a useful tool. Why not use a situation with no accountability to signal our superior skills? At the same time, if we actually have to perform, it makes sense to try to lower expectations so that our eventual success is that much more impressive. Remember:

&quot;Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn&#039;t have to do it himself.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this basic signaling again? As this blog has said many times before, the ability to deceive is a useful tool. Why not use a situation with no accountability to signal our superior skills? At the same time, if we actually have to perform, it makes sense to try to lower expectations so that our eventual success is that much more impressive. Remember:</p>
<p>&#8220;Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn&#8217;t have to do it himself.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bo</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/11/convenient-over.html#comment-392437</link>
		<dc:creator>Bo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that on some level we realize a lot more about rationality than one might think. My experiences of learning anti-bias and rationality techniques on OB have felt more like socratean unforgettings that make explicit that which I already know implicitly, than revelations.

And from the viewpoint of evolutionary psychology, wouldn&#039;t it be odd if we didn&#039;t implicitly know quite a lot about rationality, since being able to make use of rationality is so useful?

Maybe biases can be classified into just two kinds:
1) Those that make us say biased things for our own benefit, but not actually act as if what we say is true. Example: overconfidence, thinking that social judgements are made rationally.
2) Adaptations that actually are misplaced in today&#039;s world, and make us act in irrational ways.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that on some level we realize a lot more about rationality than one might think. My experiences of learning anti-bias and rationality techniques on OB have felt more like socratean unforgettings that make explicit that which I already know implicitly, than revelations.</p>
<p>And from the viewpoint of evolutionary psychology, wouldn&#8217;t it be odd if we didn&#8217;t implicitly know quite a lot about rationality, since being able to make use of rationality is so useful?</p>
<p>Maybe biases can be classified into just two kinds:<br />
1) Those that make us say biased things for our own benefit, but not actually act as if what we say is true. Example: overconfidence, thinking that social judgements are made rationally.<br />
2) Adaptations that actually are misplaced in today&#8217;s world, and make us act in irrational ways.</p>
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		<title>By: denis bider</title>
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		<dc:creator>denis bider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Observing myself, it seems that the unrealistic forecasts come from a part of brain called &quot;fun&quot;, whereas the realistic forecasts come from a part of brain called &quot;work&quot;. These are two different mindsets used in different circumstances. When one is not bound by external factors, it is fun to contemplate long-shot possibilities, but when it&#039;s time for work, one shifts to boring but more accurate asessments because circumstances demand it.

In essence, taking all the realistic factors into account is boring, so it isn&#039;t normally done for fun.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Observing myself, it seems that the unrealistic forecasts come from a part of brain called &#8220;fun&#8221;, whereas the realistic forecasts come from a part of brain called &#8220;work&#8221;. These are two different mindsets used in different circumstances. When one is not bound by external factors, it is fun to contemplate long-shot possibilities, but when it&#8217;s time for work, one shifts to boring but more accurate asessments because circumstances demand it.</p>
<p>In essence, taking all the realistic factors into account is boring, so it isn&#8217;t normally done for fun.</p>
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