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	<title>Comments on: Doable Green</title>
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		<title>By: Julian Morrison</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/09/saveable-nature.html#comment-395781</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s wrong with just &quot;enclosing&quot; GPS polygons and selling to the highest bidder? Let civil law and the market take care of enforcement. There are precedents for the kind of hunt/farming where the game can move, but you try to persuade it not to with food and shelter - in England, quasi-wild birds such as pheasants &quot;belong to&quot; whoever owns the land they&#039;re on.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s wrong with just &#8220;enclosing&#8221; GPS polygons and selling to the highest bidder? Let civil law and the market take care of enforcement. There are precedents for the kind of hunt/farming where the game can move, but you try to persuade it not to with food and shelter &#8211; in England, quasi-wild birds such as pheasants &#8220;belong to&#8221; whoever owns the land they&#8217;re on.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug S.</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/09/saveable-nature.html#comment-395780</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I wonder is, how do you prevent cheating?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I wonder is, how do you prevent cheating?</p>
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		<title>By: HH</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/09/saveable-nature.html#comment-395779</link>
		<dc:creator>HH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why do they have regulators decide the quota size? Why not just have the ITQ owners vote on the quota size?&quot;

Because most of them don&#039;t have a long-term interest in the fisheries. It&#039;s the same reason that employees shouldn&#039;t run big firms. Their goal is to maximize their lifetime income, not provide for the long-term health of fisheries. If you have a demographic situation like the baby boom, you could end up with a big majority of fishermen born in the same decade, all of whom would then vote to maximize the yield of fish over their expected working life. That is, today, a bunch of 30 year olds could vote to manage the fisheries in a way that maximizes their yield over another 30-40 years, beyond which they may or may not collapse. These fishermen wouldn&#039;t care.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why do they have regulators decide the quota size? Why not just have the ITQ owners vote on the quota size?&#8221;</p>
<p>Because most of them don&#8217;t have a long-term interest in the fisheries. It&#8217;s the same reason that employees shouldn&#8217;t run big firms. Their goal is to maximize their lifetime income, not provide for the long-term health of fisheries. If you have a demographic situation like the baby boom, you could end up with a big majority of fishermen born in the same decade, all of whom would then vote to maximize the yield of fish over their expected working life. That is, today, a bunch of 30 year olds could vote to manage the fisheries in a way that maximizes their yield over another 30-40 years, beyond which they may or may not collapse. These fishermen wouldn&#8217;t care.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian C.</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/09/saveable-nature.html#comment-395778</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand how it can be economical to hunt wild fish. On land, mass production farms easily are cheaper than hunting. What are the fish farmers doing wrong?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand how it can be economical to hunt wild fish. On land, mass production farms easily are cheaper than hunting. What are the fish farmers doing wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Tyler</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/09/saveable-nature.html#comment-395777</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ocean is a tragedy of the commons in progress.  Carve it up and then roof it over: &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://hex.alife.co.uk/ocean_reclamation/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://hex.alife.co.uk/ocean_reclamation/&lt;/A&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ocean is a tragedy of the commons in progress.  Carve it up and then roof it over: <a HREF="http://hex.alife.co.uk/ocean_reclamation/" rel="nofollow">http://hex.alife.co.uk/ocean_reclamation/</a></p>
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		<title>By: jsalvati</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/09/saveable-nature.html#comment-395776</link>
		<dc:creator>jsalvati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do they have regulators decide the quota size? Why not just have the ITQ owners vote on the quota size?
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