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	<title>Comments on: Give it to Me Straight!  I Swear I Won&#8217;t be Mad!</title>
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		<title>By: The truth will set you free&#8230; but first, it will piss you off. &#171; It&#8217;s Not Hard&#8230; but it could be</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/09/give-it-to-me-s.html#comment-434570</link>
		<dc:creator>The truth will set you free&#8230; but first, it will piss you off. &#171; It&#8217;s Not Hard&#8230; but it could be</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you wanted to know about doctors, Medical marketing, Personal philosophy, Self-deception &#124;  David J. Balan, on Overcoming Bias, writes about the difficulty of responding honestly when people say, &#8220;Give it to me [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you wanted to know about doctors, Medical marketing, Personal philosophy, Self-deception |  David J. Balan, on Overcoming Bias, writes about the difficulty of responding honestly when people say, &#8220;Give it to me [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Caledonian</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/09/give-it-to-me-s.html#comment-395794</link>
		<dc:creator>Caledonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You&#039;re being rather contrarian.&lt;/blockquote&gt;  You&#039;re reading a great deal into a very little evidence.  When did asking a simple question become a form of contrarianism?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You&#8217;re being rather contrarian.</p></blockquote>
<p>  You&#8217;re reading a great deal into a very little evidence.  When did asking a simple question become a form of contrarianism?</p>
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		<title>By: David J. Balan</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/09/give-it-to-me-s.html#comment-395793</link>
		<dc:creator>David J. Balan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get me wrong, the teacher has a real problem here.  If I was the teacher, I would also be eager to send the signal that: (i) the kid really had the problem I said she had and that my saying so wasn&#039;t just me being biased against her somehow; and (ii) that whether or not the kid got signed up for the extra help it wasn&#039;t going to influence how much I liked her or how I was going to treat her in the future.  And if I was the parent, I would want to be convinced that this was so, and part of the way that the teacher could convince me of this would be, frankly, a display like the one my friend got.

Also, as much as I would like to think that I am a &quot;give it to me straight no matter what&quot; kind of guy, I don&#039;t rule out the possibility that my courage could fail me if the news was bad enough.  Maybe not, but maybe yes.  So this is also not completely simple.

But still, come on!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, the teacher has a real problem here.  If I was the teacher, I would also be eager to send the signal that: (i) the kid really had the problem I said she had and that my saying so wasn&#8217;t just me being biased against her somehow; and (ii) that whether or not the kid got signed up for the extra help it wasn&#8217;t going to influence how much I liked her or how I was going to treat her in the future.  And if I was the parent, I would want to be convinced that this was so, and part of the way that the teacher could convince me of this would be, frankly, a display like the one my friend got.</p>
<p>Also, as much as I would like to think that I am a &#8220;give it to me straight no matter what&#8221; kind of guy, I don&#8217;t rule out the possibility that my courage could fail me if the news was bad enough.  Maybe not, but maybe yes.  So this is also not completely simple.</p>
<p>But still, come on!</p>
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		<title>By: retired urologist</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/09/give-it-to-me-s.html#comment-395792</link>
		<dc:creator>retired urologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I hereby unconditionally vow not to sue you, hate you, or speak or think ill of you in any way.  Now will you please just tell me what&#039;s going on with my kid?!?&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

An attorney friend (I have several, surprisingly) tells me that the ideal defense in a libel or discrimination action (provided it&#039;s unfounded) is the &lt;i&gt;truth&lt;/i&gt;. And, it&#039;s easier than the alternative of political correctness: when you tell the truth, you don&#039;t have to remember anything. (Mark Twain)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;I hereby unconditionally vow not to sue you, hate you, or speak or think ill of you in any way.  Now will you please just tell me what&#8217;s going on with my kid?!?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>An attorney friend (I have several, surprisingly) tells me that the ideal defense in a libel or discrimination action (provided it&#8217;s unfounded) is the <i>truth</i>. And, it&#8217;s easier than the alternative of political correctness: when you tell the truth, you don&#8217;t have to remember anything. (Mark Twain)</p>
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		<title>By: pdf23ds</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/09/give-it-to-me-s.html#comment-395791</link>
		<dc:creator>pdf23ds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because they might not believe him doesn&#039;t mean it conveys *no* information, or is not useful to say. You&#039;re being rather contrarian.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because they might not believe him doesn&#8217;t mean it conveys *no* information, or is not useful to say. You&#8217;re being rather contrarian.</p>
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		<title>By: Caledonian</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/09/give-it-to-me-s.html#comment-395790</link>
		<dc:creator>Caledonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don&#039;t expect people to believe me when I say they can tell it to me straight.&lt;/blockquote&gt;  Then why do you say it in the first place?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t expect people to believe me when I say they can tell it to me straight.</p></blockquote>
<p>  Then why do you say it in the first place?</p>
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		<title>By: sonic</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our schools are in a bad way.  Where I live if you volunteer to help at the school (something that is encouraged) you must never, ever, ever actually touch a child.  Even if one child is relentlessly beating another to a pulp- don&#039;t touch a kid.
This is totally absurd.
How did we get here?
Ask your litigation department.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our schools are in a bad way.  Where I live if you volunteer to help at the school (something that is encouraged) you must never, ever, ever actually touch a child.  Even if one child is relentlessly beating another to a pulp- don&#8217;t touch a kid.<br />
This is totally absurd.<br />
How did we get here?<br />
Ask your litigation department.</p>
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		<title>By: eric falkenstein</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/09/give-it-to-me-s.html#comment-395788</link>
		<dc:creator>eric falkenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have little kids, and I too find this extremely annoying.  But I think part of this is teachers don&#039;t understanding testing, and standard errors.  Thus, once someone told me my son scored about 4 standard errors apart on two tests.  I said, I think your standard errors are wrong.  He didn&#039;t understand.  Also, they hear so much about testing and its problems, you get them bending over backwards saying how meaningless tests are.  Now, just about any test that isn&#039;t full of questions like &#039;what&#039;s you favorite color&#039; are g-loaded, and have some validity, but often I hear the teachers and their mouthpieces say over and over how tests are really meaningless because a person is much more complicated blah blah blah.  The key is, after hearing this all the time, does a teacher even feel that learning about educational testing metrics--their biases, standard errors, fluctuations over a lifetime, etc.--is worth it?  After all, if they are all meaningless.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have little kids, and I too find this extremely annoying.  But I think part of this is teachers don&#8217;t understanding testing, and standard errors.  Thus, once someone told me my son scored about 4 standard errors apart on two tests.  I said, I think your standard errors are wrong.  He didn&#8217;t understand.  Also, they hear so much about testing and its problems, you get them bending over backwards saying how meaningless tests are.  Now, just about any test that isn&#8217;t full of questions like &#8216;what&#8217;s you favorite color&#8217; are g-loaded, and have some validity, but often I hear the teachers and their mouthpieces say over and over how tests are really meaningless because a person is much more complicated blah blah blah.  The key is, after hearing this all the time, does a teacher even feel that learning about educational testing metrics&#8211;their biases, standard errors, fluctuations over a lifetime, etc.&#8211;is worth it?  After all, if they are all meaningless.</p>
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		<title>By: retired urologist</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/09/give-it-to-me-s.html#comment-395787</link>
		<dc:creator>retired urologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Cajuns in my area have a story illustrating the social dangers of &quot;giving it to &#039;em straight.&quot;

Boudreaux was a widower whose most valued possession was his cat, Felix. Boudreaux won a 2-week trip to Europe, and he asked his friend Thibodeaux to look after the cat in his absence. &quot;Thib,&quot; he said, &quot;I&#039;ll call you from England to check on Felix.&quot; Three days into the trip, Boudreaux indeed called Thibodeaux and asked, &quot;How&#039;s my cat doin&#039;?&quot; Thibodeaux replied, &quot;Mai, Boudreaux, your cat died.&quot; Boudreaux was beside himself, first with grief, then with anger. &quot;Thib,&quot; he wailed, &quot;You don&#039;t just tell somebody flat out that their cat died. You got no sensitivity. You should ease into it. Like, you should say, &#039;Boudreaux, your cat&#039;s on the roof, but I&#039;m pretty sure we can get him down.&#039; Then when I call the next day, you say, &#039;We got your cat down, but he caught pneumonia. The vet&#039;s pretty sure he&#039;ll be OK.&#039; Then on the next call, you say, &#039;The cat took a turn for the worse, but the vet&#039;s giving him some powerful medicine.&#039; Then the next day, you finally say, &#039;Boudreaux, we did all we could, but your cat passed on.&#039; That&#039;s the way you handle bad news like this.&quot;

Thibodeaux expressed his remorse for his insensitivity and vowed to be more thoughtful. Two days later, Boudreaux called again. &quot;Thib, how&#039;s my mother?&quot; Thibodeaux replied in his kindest voice, &quot;Boudreaux, your mother&#039;s on the roof.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cajuns in my area have a story illustrating the social dangers of &#8220;giving it to &#8216;em straight.&#8221;</p>
<p>Boudreaux was a widower whose most valued possession was his cat, Felix. Boudreaux won a 2-week trip to Europe, and he asked his friend Thibodeaux to look after the cat in his absence. &#8220;Thib,&#8221; he said, &#8220;I&#8217;ll call you from England to check on Felix.&#8221; Three days into the trip, Boudreaux indeed called Thibodeaux and asked, &#8220;How&#8217;s my cat doin&#8217;?&#8221; Thibodeaux replied, &#8220;Mai, Boudreaux, your cat died.&#8221; Boudreaux was beside himself, first with grief, then with anger. &#8220;Thib,&#8221; he wailed, &#8220;You don&#8217;t just tell somebody flat out that their cat died. You got no sensitivity. You should ease into it. Like, you should say, &#8216;Boudreaux, your cat&#8217;s on the roof, but I&#8217;m pretty sure we can get him down.&#8217; Then when I call the next day, you say, &#8216;We got your cat down, but he caught pneumonia. The vet&#8217;s pretty sure he&#8217;ll be OK.&#8217; Then on the next call, you say, &#8216;The cat took a turn for the worse, but the vet&#8217;s giving him some powerful medicine.&#8217; Then the next day, you finally say, &#8216;Boudreaux, we did all we could, but your cat passed on.&#8217; That&#8217;s the way you handle bad news like this.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thibodeaux expressed his remorse for his insensitivity and vowed to be more thoughtful. Two days later, Boudreaux called again. &#8220;Thib, how&#8217;s my mother?&#8221; Thibodeaux replied in his kindest voice, &#8220;Boudreaux, your mother&#8217;s on the roof.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Crowley</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/09/give-it-to-me-s.html#comment-395786</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Crowley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I don&#039;t expect people to believe me when I say they can tell it to me straight.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t know how best to judge whether people can give it to me straight, given how much I find other people in error on this one.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don&#8217;t expect people to believe me when I say they can tell it to me straight.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how best to judge whether people can give it to me straight, given how much I find other people in error on this one.</p>
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