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		<title>By: Morgan Warstler</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/07/is-ideology-abo.html#comment-479909</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan Warstler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of this is as subjective as you are pretending.  The arch of history points to libertarian outcomes that raise up those that produce the most value in the eyes of others.... and diminish over time those that sit ensconced on the left pontificating, rent seeking, and organizing mobs for their own edification.

Most of the teachers will be fired (Khan Academy), and the public employees will be de-unionized...

And if I&#039;m right about these trends.... this will no longer be a valid discussion.  We will see there was only one answer.

To be clear: Value is judged exclusively by money / time, which represents how much of your hour / time is worth how much of someone else&#039;s hour time.

So, sure people on the left seek to diminish those who create the most value measured in dollars / time, they&#039;ll argue against property rights, they&#039;ll fight and kick and scream.... but they are cooked.

The sad thing is it took &quot;spending all the money&quot; to force them into submission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of this is as subjective as you are pretending.  The arch of history points to libertarian outcomes that raise up those that produce the most value in the eyes of others&#8230;. and diminish over time those that sit ensconced on the left pontificating, rent seeking, and organizing mobs for their own edification.</p>
<p>Most of the teachers will be fired (Khan Academy), and the public employees will be de-unionized&#8230;</p>
<p>And if I&#8217;m right about these trends&#8230;. this will no longer be a valid discussion.  We will see there was only one answer.</p>
<p>To be clear: Value is judged exclusively by money / time, which represents how much of your hour / time is worth how much of someone else&#8217;s hour time.</p>
<p>So, sure people on the left seek to diminish those who create the most value measured in dollars / time, they&#8217;ll argue against property rights, they&#8217;ll fight and kick and scream&#8230;. but they are cooked.</p>
<p>The sad thing is it took &#8220;spending all the money&#8221; to force them into submission.</p>
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		<title>By: Arnold Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/07/is-ideology-abo.html#comment-445701</link>
		<dc:creator>Arnold Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hostility to gays tends to be because, as a group, they violate moral norms in supporting their families, acquiescing to authority, and recognizing society specific disgust and elevation objects/goals.  For more, see Jonathan Haidt, Planet of the Durkheimians (paper, on his website, or more generally, the paper about moral intuitions that liberals don&#039;t have.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hostility to gays tends to be because, as a group, they violate moral norms in supporting their families, acquiescing to authority, and recognizing society specific disgust and elevation objects/goals.  For more, see Jonathan Haidt, Planet of the Durkheimians (paper, on his website, or more generally, the paper about moral intuitions that liberals don&#8217;t have.)</p>
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		<title>By: bronstein</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/07/is-ideology-abo.html#comment-444686</link>
		<dc:creator>bronstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now can one of you experts remind me again why America tolerates two girls kissing and spurns two boys kissing?
You know, while you&#039;re talking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now can one of you experts remind me again why America tolerates two girls kissing and spurns two boys kissing?<br />
You know, while you&#8217;re talking.</p>
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		<title>By: bronstein</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/07/is-ideology-abo.html#comment-444685</link>
		<dc:creator>bronstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When did they decide that ten-year-olds don&#039;t have sex drives?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When did they decide that ten-year-olds don&#8217;t have sex drives?</p>
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		<title>By: What Exactly Was Being &#8220;Negotiated&#8221; in Copenhagen? &#124; Brian Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/07/is-ideology-abo.html#comment-439233</link>
		<dc:creator>What Exactly Was Being &#8220;Negotiated&#8221; in Copenhagen? &#124; Brian Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] policy, that politics is our system for choosing policies to deal with common problems.  But as Tyler Cowen suggests, real politics seems to be more about who will be our leaders, and what coalitions will rise or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] policy, that politics is our system for choosing policies to deal with common problems.  But as Tyler Cowen suggests, real politics seems to be more about who will be our leaders, and what coalitions will rise or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Overcoming Bias : Politics isn&#8217;t about Policy</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/07/is-ideology-abo.html#comment-433002</link>
		<dc:creator>Overcoming Bias : Politics isn&#8217;t about Policy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about policy, that politics is our system for choosing policies to deal with common problems.  But as Tyler Cowen suggests, real politics seems to be more about who will be our leaders, and what coalitions will rise or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about policy, that politics is our system for choosing policies to deal with common problems.  But as Tyler Cowen suggests, real politics seems to be more about who will be our leaders, and what coalitions will rise or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hopefully Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/07/is-ideology-abo.html#comment-399513</link>
		<dc:creator>Hopefully Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silas, your last point is apparently not true (that 10% of the population can&#039;t veto its own subordination). For a recent example, polling suggests 10% of the population supports reproductive human cloning, but there seems to be a global consensus among nations that human reproductive cloning should be banned.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silas, your last point is apparently not true (that 10% of the population can&#8217;t veto its own subordination). For a recent example, polling suggests 10% of the population supports reproductive human cloning, but there seems to be a global consensus among nations that human reproductive cloning should be banned.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael F. Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/07/is-ideology-abo.html#comment-399512</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael F. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought politics was the art of the possible.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought politics was the art of the possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Lara Foster</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/07/is-ideology-abo.html#comment-399511</link>
		<dc:creator>Lara Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silas- this discussion was moved to the open forum, where I thought Nick had some good points too...  I think you&#039;re right about the 10% (though, some people count anyone whose ever had a homosexual encounter, which is just about 50% of all girls between the ages of 17 and 25 at this point... but, I will say that even 1 or 2% of the population should be enough to raise an eyebrow as to evolutionary fitness.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silas- this discussion was moved to the open forum, where I thought Nick had some good points too&#8230;  I think you&#8217;re right about the 10% (though, some people count anyone whose ever had a homosexual encounter, which is just about 50% of all girls between the ages of 17 and 25 at this point&#8230; but, I will say that even 1 or 2% of the population should be enough to raise an eyebrow as to evolutionary fitness.</p>
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		<title>By: Silas</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/07/is-ideology-abo.html#comment-399510</link>
		<dc:creator>Silas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lara: there are pretty easy answers to the dilemma&#039;s you&#039;ve posed:

1) Hatred of homosexuality exist because ethnic groups without the norms got massively outbred and then annihilated (sp).

2) Women don&#039;t have the same desire to seize power because it doesn&#039;t make as much a difference to them in terms of access to mates.  (Sad, but true.)

Also, I think estimates of homosexuality at 10% are ridiculously high.  If they were that high a percentage of the population, homosexuals would be a big enough voting block that we wouldn&#039;t be having these debates about what rights homosexuals should have.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lara: there are pretty easy answers to the dilemma&#8217;s you&#8217;ve posed:</p>
<p>1) Hatred of homosexuality exist because ethnic groups without the norms got massively outbred and then annihilated (sp).</p>
<p>2) Women don&#8217;t have the same desire to seize power because it doesn&#8217;t make as much a difference to them in terms of access to mates.  (Sad, but true.)</p>
<p>Also, I think estimates of homosexuality at 10% are ridiculously high.  If they were that high a percentage of the population, homosexuals would be a big enough voting block that we wouldn&#8217;t be having these debates about what rights homosexuals should have.</p>
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