http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/06/are-meta-views.html Overcoming Bias is economist Robin Hanson’s blog, on honesty, signaling, disagreement, forecasting, and the far future. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:03:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/06/are-meta-views.html#comment-401686 Vladimir Nesov Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:08:18 +0000 http://prod.ob.trike.com.au/2008/06/are-meta-views-outside-views.html#comment-401686 It is not a dichotomy: you should use as much evidence as you can get your hands on. It is wrong to use strictly outside or strictly inside views, if you can do better using information about both (and, really, there is no strong distinction between different levels of description, some of them more "outsidey", some of them more "insidey"). There are cases when a particular representation is misleading misleading for humans, due to the framing bias and its friends, but it doesn't extend to the general case. It is not a dichotomy: you should use as much evidence as you can get your hands on. It is wrong to use strictly outside or strictly inside views, if you can do better using information about both (and, really, there is no strong distinction between different levels of description, some of them more “outsidey”, some of them more “insidey”). There are cases when a particular representation is misleading misleading for humans, due to the framing bias and its friends, but it doesn’t extend to the general case.

]]> http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/06/are-meta-views.html#comment-401685 Unknown Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:45:16 +0000 http://prod.ob.trike.com.au/2008/06/are-meta-views-outside-views.html#comment-401685 Level, that seems to be Eliezer's meta-view. It isn't very useful, though; he argued for it by denying the principle of all induction, as I illustrated in the comments on his post on Surface Analogies. Level, that seems to be Eliezer’s meta-view. It isn’t very useful, though; he argued for it by denying the principle of all induction, as I illustrated in the comments on his post on Surface Analogies.

]]> http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/06/are-meta-views.html#comment-401684 PK Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:57:47 +0000 http://prod.ob.trike.com.au/2008/06/are-meta-views-outside-views.html#comment-401684 Taboo "outside view" and "inside view" please. Taboo “outside view” and “inside view” please.

]]> http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/06/are-meta-views.html#comment-401683 Level Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:21:52 +0000 http://prod.ob.trike.com.au/2008/06/are-meta-views-outside-views.html#comment-401683 So perhaps the only useful outside view is the meta-view that inside views are preferable to outside views in all basic cases? So perhaps the only useful outside view is the meta-view that inside views are preferable to outside views in all basic cases?

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