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	<title>Comments on: Brownlee on Selling Anxiety</title>
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		<title>By: Robin Hanson</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/04/brownlee-on-sel.html#comment-406047</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Hanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hal Finney</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/04/brownlee-on-sel.html#comment-406046</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal Finney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 15:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen, the site you link to, &lt;a href=&quot;http://dsib.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dsib.org&lt;/a&gt;, is a marketing tool for the dietary supplement industry! It is simply a competitor to the &quot;Pharma industry&quot; offering their own alternative drugs and treatments. I would not assume that it is science based simply because it has a scientific advisory board. See Robin&#039;s recent comment on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/03/boards-of-advis.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pointlessness of such boards&lt;/a&gt; before you get impressed by this.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen, the site you link to, <a href="http://dsib.org/" rel="nofollow">dsib.org</a>, is a marketing tool for the dietary supplement industry! It is simply a competitor to the &#8220;Pharma industry&#8221; offering their own alternative drugs and treatments. I would not assume that it is science based simply because it has a scientific advisory board. See Robin&#8217;s recent comment on the <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/03/boards-of-advis.html" rel="nofollow">pointlessness of such boards</a> before you get impressed by this.</p>
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		<title>By: Caledonian</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/04/brownlee-on-sel.html#comment-406045</link>
		<dc:creator>Caledonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;what do you folks think of the Szasz/Caplan take on &quot;mental illness&quot;?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If we knew what they were, they&#039;d be a part of neurology, not psychiatry.  We&#039;ve made great progress in negative hypotheses - we know a lot of things that they aren&#039;t, but have little idea of what they are.  And the most commonly-given explanation for them?  Meaningless handwaving.  It&#039;s just &quot;imbalance of the humours&quot; with a modern term substituted.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>what do you folks think of the Szasz/Caplan take on &#8220;mental illness&#8221;?</p></blockquote>
<p>If we knew what they were, they&#8217;d be a part of neurology, not psychiatry.  We&#8217;ve made great progress in negative hypotheses &#8211; we know a lot of things that they aren&#8217;t, but have little idea of what they are.  And the most commonly-given explanation for them?  Meaningless handwaving.  It&#8217;s just &#8220;imbalance of the humours&#8221; with a modern term substituted.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/04/brownlee-on-sel.html#comment-406044</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a woman who HAS been diagnosed with osteoporosis, this debate hits right at home. The point is that this type of publicity (the dangers of osteoporosis, etc.) DOES drive fear into our hearts on an emotional level and it&#039;s hard to separate what&#039;s real from what is designed just to scare us.

I&#039;ve been going to &lt;a href=&quot;http://dsib.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this site&lt;/a&gt;  for HEALTH information because it IS science based and not Pharma industry driven. I think we need to seek really objective sources of information to balance the hype.

What do you think??
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a woman who HAS been diagnosed with osteoporosis, this debate hits right at home. The point is that this type of publicity (the dangers of osteoporosis, etc.) DOES drive fear into our hearts on an emotional level and it&#8217;s hard to separate what&#8217;s real from what is designed just to scare us.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been going to <a href="http://dsib.org" rel="nofollow">this site</a>  for HEALTH information because it IS science based and not Pharma industry driven. I think we need to seek really objective sources of information to balance the hype.</p>
<p>What do you think??</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie's Farm</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/04/brownlee-on-sel.html#comment-406048</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie's Farm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 11:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Saturday links&lt;/strong&gt;

Islam has taken over the UN&#039;s Human Rights CouncilThinking about prayer. Dr. BobDrug companies invent new diseases? Sometimes, maybe. Good example.The Fed caused the credit crunch. MankiwWriting mastery eludes NYC schoolkidsMercedes Marxists: The Clintons
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<p>Islam has taken over the UN&#8217;s Human Rights CouncilThinking about prayer. Dr. BobDrug companies invent new diseases? Sometimes, maybe. Good example.The Fed caused the credit crunch. MankiwWriting mastery eludes NYC schoolkidsMercedes Marxists: The Clintons</p>
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		<title>By: TGGP</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/04/brownlee-on-sel.html#comment-406043</link>
		<dc:creator>TGGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 04:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of invented diseases, what do you folks think of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2006/09/they_called_me.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Szasz/Caplan&lt;/a&gt; take on &quot;mental illness&quot;?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of invented diseases, what do you folks think of the <a href="http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2006/09/they_called_me.html" rel="nofollow">Szasz/Caplan</a> take on &#8220;mental illness&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Knight</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/04/brownlee-on-sel.html#comment-406042</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have liked this post more with some commentary, eg, &quot;This is a nice example of how to manipulate people via biases (obedience to authority, binary essentialism).&quot; I think people are too confident in their expectations of communication, in their expectation that others will fill in the blanks the same way.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have liked this post more with some commentary, eg, &#8220;This is a nice example of how to manipulate people via biases (obedience to authority, binary essentialism).&#8221; I think people are too confident in their expectations of communication, in their expectation that others will fill in the blanks the same way.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerome Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/04/brownlee-on-sel.html#comment-406041</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerome Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm.... Ms Brownlee really conflates two points here.
A) A Semantic debate about the nature of REAL disease as opposed to INVENTED disease, in which she seems to avoid acknowledging that health and sickness are intrinsically normative categories and as such, their definitions will invariably shift over time.

B) Her belief that medical interventions in conditions that do not pose sufficient health risks to warrant it are becoming increasingly common and are counterproductive,

What is really missing in her analysis, is an acknowledgment that the trade-offs involved in choosing to seek treatment in any given instance have as much do to with the priorities, values and risk tolerance ofthe patient as with any artifically binary distinction between sickness and wellness.

New medicines provide more patient choice and that is surely a good thing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;. Ms Brownlee really conflates two points here.<br />
A) A Semantic debate about the nature of REAL disease as opposed to INVENTED disease, in which she seems to avoid acknowledging that health and sickness are intrinsically normative categories and as such, their definitions will invariably shift over time.</p>
<p>B) Her belief that medical interventions in conditions that do not pose sufficient health risks to warrant it are becoming increasingly common and are counterproductive,</p>
<p>What is really missing in her analysis, is an acknowledgment that the trade-offs involved in choosing to seek treatment in any given instance have as much do to with the priorities, values and risk tolerance ofthe patient as with any artifically binary distinction between sickness and wellness.</p>
<p>New medicines provide more patient choice and that is surely a good thing.</p>
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