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	<title>Comments on: Are any Human Cognitive Biases Genetically Universal?</title>
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		<title>By: James Somers</title>
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		<description>As promised, I read the volume you suggested (Narrative Thought and Narrative Language).

I can see where your view, namely, that the power of stories comes &quot;from learning, because our life is formulated as a story, not genetically but because time is sequential and our motives cause our stories,&quot; comes from.

Perhaps most relevantly, Olson says &quot;There is nothing natural about the narrative; it is a linguistic form analogous to rhyme.&quot;(p. 101).

I see what you both mean, though I think a good case still could be made that narrative *is* the most &quot;natural&quot; vector for our internal models. In other words, if a person&#039;s cognitive maps of reality typically relate to some agent (usually himself) wouldn&#039;t a form so concerned with agency (as narratives are) stick? If so, it might mean we&#039;re genetically predisposed to narrative. Tenuous, indeed, and per this post, I don&#039;t have any real evidence (like one-egg twin studies).

Anyway, I found the book for the most part informative and engaging. I will say that I really did not like the first paper, &quot;Narrative Comprehension.&quot; I thought it was long-winded, unsure of itself, poorly designed, and mostly unconvincing, though I did enjoy the four short stories in the appendix. This is not to say the thrust of the chapter was lost on me, but I didn&#039;t enjoy the presentation.

I was quite fond of McGuire&#039;s &quot;The Rhetoric of Narrative: A Hermeneutic, Critical Theory.&quot; His ideas didn&#039;t blow my hair back, but he is an excellent writer.

I thought Chafe had a cool approach with his &quot;Some Things That Narratives Tell Us About the Mind,&quot; and I was impressed (though a little overloaded) by the methods in &quot;The Joint Construction of Stories.&quot;

One thing that struck me was how often this Bruner guy got mentioned (his 1986 book was cited in practically every chapter). Must have been a pretty influential piece.

If you haven&#039;t read it, I&#039;d recommend David Foster Wallace&#039;s essay &quot;E Pluribus Unum: Television and US Fiction&quot;. He&#039;s a bit wild and has a ridiculous (stupefying) vocabulary, but I thought his ideas (of the ones I could understand) were dead-on. You&#039;ll see why I think it&#039;s relevant to the present discussion.

I&#039;m curious to know what your role was as editor of the book. Also, what motivated the conference in the first place? I have to say I enjoyed the product, and I can see why you wanted me to read it. Thanks.

Best,

- James
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As promised, I read the volume you suggested (Narrative Thought and Narrative Language).</p>
<p>I can see where your view, namely, that the power of stories comes &#8220;from learning, because our life is formulated as a story, not genetically but because time is sequential and our motives cause our stories,&#8221; comes from.</p>
<p>Perhaps most relevantly, Olson says &#8220;There is nothing natural about the narrative; it is a linguistic form analogous to rhyme.&#8221;(p. 101).</p>
<p>I see what you both mean, though I think a good case still could be made that narrative *is* the most &#8220;natural&#8221; vector for our internal models. In other words, if a person&#8217;s cognitive maps of reality typically relate to some agent (usually himself) wouldn&#8217;t a form so concerned with agency (as narratives are) stick? If so, it might mean we&#8217;re genetically predisposed to narrative. Tenuous, indeed, and per this post, I don&#8217;t have any real evidence (like one-egg twin studies).</p>
<p>Anyway, I found the book for the most part informative and engaging. I will say that I really did not like the first paper, &#8220;Narrative Comprehension.&#8221; I thought it was long-winded, unsure of itself, poorly designed, and mostly unconvincing, though I did enjoy the four short stories in the appendix. This is not to say the thrust of the chapter was lost on me, but I didn&#8217;t enjoy the presentation.</p>
<p>I was quite fond of McGuire&#8217;s &#8220;The Rhetoric of Narrative: A Hermeneutic, Critical Theory.&#8221; His ideas didn&#8217;t blow my hair back, but he is an excellent writer.</p>
<p>I thought Chafe had a cool approach with his &#8220;Some Things That Narratives Tell Us About the Mind,&#8221; and I was impressed (though a little overloaded) by the methods in &#8220;The Joint Construction of Stories.&#8221;</p>
<p>One thing that struck me was how often this Bruner guy got mentioned (his 1986 book was cited in practically every chapter). Must have been a pretty influential piece.</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t read it, I&#8217;d recommend David Foster Wallace&#8217;s essay &#8220;E Pluribus Unum: Television and US Fiction&#8221;. He&#8217;s a bit wild and has a ridiculous (stupefying) vocabulary, but I thought his ideas (of the ones I could understand) were dead-on. You&#8217;ll see why I think it&#8217;s relevant to the present discussion.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious to know what your role was as editor of the book. Also, what motivated the conference in the first place? I have to say I enjoyed the product, and I can see why you wanted me to read it. Thanks.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>- James</p>
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