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		<title>By: IQ-Gott</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/02/will_blog_posts.html#comment-430136</link>
		<dc:creator>IQ-Gott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes it&#039;s really that simple, isn&#039;t it? I feel a little stupid for not thinking of this myself/earlier, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes it&#8217;s really that simple, isn&#8217;t it? I feel a little stupid for not thinking of this myself/earlier, though.</p>
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		<title>By: casper john</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/02/will_blog_posts.html#comment-422182</link>
		<dc:creator>casper john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are of course absolutely correct that what gets measured gets managed. If we start counting mentions in acknoledgements then people will stroll for those as they now stroll for citations.JUst be more open for those things.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are of course absolutely correct that what gets measured gets managed. If we start counting mentions in acknoledgements then people will stroll for those as they now stroll for citations.JUst be more open for those things.</p>
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		<title>By: post alcoholism</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/02/will_blog_posts.html#comment-422181</link>
		<dc:creator>post alcoholism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>always check the spellings! hehe
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>always check the spellings! hehe</p>
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		<title>By: Barkley Rosser</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/02/will_blog_posts.html#comment-422180</link>
		<dc:creator>Barkley Rosser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>post alcoholism,

Including apparently to generate neologisms, e.g. &quot;co-evoluting&quot; and &quot;acamedic.&quot;  Does the latter refer to medical schools?  :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>post alcoholism,</p>
<p>Including apparently to generate neologisms, e.g. &#8220;co-evoluting&#8221; and &#8220;acamedic.&#8221;  Does the latter refer to medical schools?  <img src='http://www.overcomingbias.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: post alcoholism</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/02/will_blog_posts.html#comment-422179</link>
		<dc:creator>post alcoholism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 01:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Robin,

First of all, thanks for your comment on my site (how did you find it by the way).
Second, I agree with you that blogs should be treated more seriously by the academias. The hyperlinks do make blogs a great tool for academic research.
What I am saying in my post is to abandon the instrumental way of treating blogs. As Whitehead remarks, human beings are co-evoluting with technology. The unique styles and features of blogs to some extent re-configure acamedic writing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robin,</p>
<p>First of all, thanks for your comment on my site (how did you find it by the way).<br />
Second, I agree with you that blogs should be treated more seriously by the academias. The hyperlinks do make blogs a great tool for academic research.<br />
What I am saying in my post is to abandon the instrumental way of treating blogs. As Whitehead remarks, human beings are co-evoluting with technology. The unique styles and features of blogs to some extent re-configure acamedic writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Tschoegl</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/02/will_blog_posts.html#comment-422178</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Tschoegl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 01:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan,

That was what I was working my way towards. You definitely put it more clearly.

Barkley,

You are of course absolutely correct that what gets measured gets managed.  If we start counting mentions in acknoledgements then people will troll for those as they now troll for citations. (By the way, when trolling for citations as a referee, I do try to keep it under control, and bury the suggestions in a list of others, if for no other reason than to avoid making it too obvious that I was the referee. :-)

Outcast,

You make a neat point.  It would be interesting to see what would happen if we could discount citations by the closeness of the citee to the citer (perhaps measured by cross cites), or at least add double count cites from fields outside the field in which the paper was published.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan,</p>
<p>That was what I was working my way towards. You definitely put it more clearly.</p>
<p>Barkley,</p>
<p>You are of course absolutely correct that what gets measured gets managed.  If we start counting mentions in acknoledgements then people will troll for those as they now troll for citations. (By the way, when trolling for citations as a referee, I do try to keep it under control, and bury the suggestions in a list of others, if for no other reason than to avoid making it too obvious that I was the referee. <img src='http://www.overcomingbias.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Outcast,</p>
<p>You make a neat point.  It would be interesting to see what would happen if we could discount citations by the closeness of the citee to the citer (perhaps measured by cross cites), or at least add double count cites from fields outside the field in which the paper was published.</p>
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		<title>By: outcast</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/02/will_blog_posts.html#comment-422177</link>
		<dc:creator>outcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever the truth of Barkley&#039;s jibes he rudely raises a point central to the subjectis of this blog. People being highly biased in favor of their friends is very common phenomenon, and perhaps the biggest source of bias of them all.  To what extent the &quot;lunch bloggers&quot; are yet another among billions of examples of this I have no personal knowledge and it would be a good idea to use examples in which this community is less personally involved.

In the academic world some bias in favor of friends and close colleagues is of necessity since the language talked by subgroups is so alien they are mutually unintelligible for the most part.  They thus must either cite things they don&#039;t very well understand or stick to their own little highly biased and highly obscure (to all but themselves) clique.   As long as cites by friends count as strongly as cites by strangeers there will remain a very strong incentive to carry on this cite barter among mutually trusting friends, even though such cites indicate social connection rather than anything we should consider to be academic achievement.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever the truth of Barkley&#8217;s jibes he rudely raises a point central to the subjectis of this blog. People being highly biased in favor of their friends is very common phenomenon, and perhaps the biggest source of bias of them all.  To what extent the &#8220;lunch bloggers&#8221; are yet another among billions of examples of this I have no personal knowledge and it would be a good idea to use examples in which this community is less personally involved.</p>
<p>In the academic world some bias in favor of friends and close colleagues is of necessity since the language talked by subgroups is so alien they are mutually unintelligible for the most part.  They thus must either cite things they don&#8217;t very well understand or stick to their own little highly biased and highly obscure (to all but themselves) clique.   As long as cites by friends count as strongly as cites by strangeers there will remain a very strong incentive to carry on this cite barter among mutually trusting friends, even though such cites indicate social connection rather than anything we should consider to be academic achievement.</p>
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		<title>By: Barkley Rosser</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/02/will_blog_posts.html#comment-422176</link>
		<dc:creator>Barkley Rosser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 21:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin,

I&#039;ll let it go, and will note that I have turned it into mostly teasing, which is largely my attitude towards it.  However, it is not just you.  All of you have indeed been praising each other to the skies on your respective blogs.  The &quot;most brilliant&quot; is you, after all, not so described by yourself (whew).

Certainly you all have a right to do so, and I shall say no more about it, at least not in this venue (I do apologize for having overdone it here).  But since you seem to be bothered by my appearance of being bothered by it (which I am not, really, I have been teasing, as I know most of you), you might just ask yourself how it looks to anybody like me who has actually been paying reasonably close attention.

BTW, I think you are the one with the whitest teeth...  :-).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll let it go, and will note that I have turned it into mostly teasing, which is largely my attitude towards it.  However, it is not just you.  All of you have indeed been praising each other to the skies on your respective blogs.  The &#8220;most brilliant&#8221; is you, after all, not so described by yourself (whew).</p>
<p>Certainly you all have a right to do so, and I shall say no more about it, at least not in this venue (I do apologize for having overdone it here).  But since you seem to be bothered by my appearance of being bothered by it (which I am not, really, I have been teasing, as I know most of you), you might just ask yourself how it looks to anybody like me who has actually been paying reasonably close attention.</p>
<p>BTW, I think you are the one with the whitest teeth&#8230;  <img src='http://www.overcomingbias.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Hanson</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/02/will_blog_posts.html#comment-422175</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Hanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barkley, since this is the forth time you have brought this up, it apparently really really bugs you that I offered a few parenthetical words of praise for my colleagues. You&#039;ve made your point; can we get on with other topics now?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barkley, since this is the forth time you have brought this up, it apparently really really bugs you that I offered a few parenthetical words of praise for my colleagues. You&#8217;ve made your point; can we get on with other topics now?</p>
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		<title>By: Barkley Rosser</title>
		<link>http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/02/will_blog_posts.html#comment-422174</link>
		<dc:creator>Barkley Rosser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that ever since internet lists got going seriously over a decade, largely to be supplanted more recently by blogging, there has been a lot of research stimulated by the discussions on the internet more broadly.  But I think Nathan Whitehead&#039;s remarks are probably more the way things go.

I can&#039;t resist this bit of naught wisecracking.  In watching the mutual backscratching and citations of the GMU lunch bloggers crowd, I am beginning to get the impression of a high school about to put out a yearbook.  So, any minute I expect one to call another &quot;class clown,&quot; and another will be described as &quot;having the whitest teeth,&quot; and, gosh, we might read that another &quot;was most likely to get his hair cut when his mother told him to in the third grade,&quot; while yet another might be &quot;most likely to save a damsel in distress in a dank dungeon guarded by a demonic dragon.&quot;
:-).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that ever since internet lists got going seriously over a decade, largely to be supplanted more recently by blogging, there has been a lot of research stimulated by the discussions on the internet more broadly.  But I think Nathan Whitehead&#8217;s remarks are probably more the way things go.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t resist this bit of naught wisecracking.  In watching the mutual backscratching and citations of the GMU lunch bloggers crowd, I am beginning to get the impression of a high school about to put out a yearbook.  So, any minute I expect one to call another &#8220;class clown,&#8221; and another will be described as &#8220;having the whitest teeth,&#8221; and, gosh, we might read that another &#8220;was most likely to get his hair cut when his mother told him to in the third grade,&#8221; while yet another might be &#8220;most likely to save a damsel in distress in a dank dungeon guarded by a demonic dragon.&#8221; <img src='http://www.overcomingbias.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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