Most men do not complain NOT because its a sign of weakness but because it will just create conflict.

Most men do not like conflict because conflict between men normally cause violence. Due to most men being more aggressive in general than women.

Most conflict between women don’t typically end in violence.

Women don’t have worse lives than men. People live their lives as they choose to. Women can live their lives just as men do.

Your welcome for creating society, the roads, government, military, irrigation, houses, buildings, jobs, cars, medicine etc so that we could live in a society where women dont have to farm/have babies “against their will”. Men didnt complain when women called them pansies for not fighting in WW2. They joined up. And men still dont complain while half of domestic violence is against them.

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yes, men suffer also, and at a time even whole races were considered less then human. my point is that some of the men suffered some of the time but almost ALL of the women suffered almost ALL of the time. but, let us bygones be bygones, water under the bridge, yes?

the question at hand is why women complain more then men. if that is true, and i really do not have the data to prove either way except from my own experience and that is that both sexes complain equally and there are more differences between members of the same sex then between the sexes. but if it is true, than it is most likely because you men (most of you anyway) have your fists and your muscles and strength to serve you as tools for proving yourself and getting what you want, while, alas, us women have but our words, tears and cunts for weapons, and so we use them..need we apologize for that or refrain for using them?

besides, i must be very lucky to have found someone who i understand and who understands me so i hardly nag at all, and he has very few complaints as well… at least concerning the “The two big”, for i have no lack of sexual desire and am not prone to irrational responses. and can cook too. so maybe those who complain more have more reason to complain and it is more a matter of choosing the right mate then inherent female/male behavior.

the day when i start to care about whether i am welcomed to a blog, or anywhere else for that matter, is the day i give up life and go live in the woods somewhere. i know who i am and where i stand, and people can take it or leave it, read it or not, it is all one to me.

As a female member of the OB community, welcome. May I please address 3 of your points briefly?

“for almost the entire history of human race women were treated as second class citizens”

Alas Ilsa, monkey society is ugly; girl monkeys have a hard time. Evolution sucks that way. But let me politely point out that for most of human history, even up to the more widespread adoption of universal suffrage, most men were slaves and second class citizens too. Moneky society is also cruel to beta males.

“i still have to fight to be taken seriously in my line of work and not only as a pretty doll or a child that plays at being a programmer”

Clearly you are working at the wrong firm. Maybe you should come work for me, where we have many highly valued women programmers and tech managers with multiple PhDs, often from Europe, India, and Russia.

“selfish, egocentric, spoiled”

Ilsa please hear me in good faith when I attest that the general OB community is not so. Women are actually more welcome here than on other blogs, I have found.

well, boo-fucking-hoo, poor men. you seem to forget that for almost the entire history of human race women were treated as second class citizens, practically slaves. in almost ALL cultures of the world they were encouraged to look pretty, keep their mouth shut, spread their legs and give birth to a male child. no right to vote, no right to higher education. not until relatively recently was the plying field leveled and women were given equal status as men (and even that is not true for all the countries yet). and still years after we won our right to be regarded as human beings of equal value as men i still have to fight to be taken seriously in my line of work and not only as a pretty doll or a child that plays at being a programmer but is not capable of real mental accomplishments as that is reserved solely for the “big boys”.

and yes, maybe we do react more emotionally then men do, but that is mostly brought on by mens tendency to dismiss any comments they don’t want to hear and it drives us crazy because it would drive anyone crazy to be dismissed and ignored like that. and also, is it so fucking hard to do something nice for us once in a while just to show us that we are loved, that you care and think of us? we need that, and if it really is that hard for you guys then i apologize for the inconvenience(and the following profanity), you selfish, egocentric, spoiled assholes.